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Monarch 27"N value ?
- Thread starter tfuquajr
- Start date
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OK I guess no one wants to guess what its worth fair enough.
But I have not got a real good look at how this one works does the main motor run the head and the saddle or does it have 2 motors on the machine ?
I will start searching and researching about this one will hopefully get it home on Monday.
But I have not got a real good look at how this one works does the main motor run the head and the saddle or does it have 2 motors on the machine ?
I will start searching and researching about this one will hopefully get it home on Monday.
johnoder
Diamond
- Joined
- Jul 16, 2004
- Location
- Houston, TX USA
Its a big simple machine - motor in base, clutch is part of input pulley to head stock
Shafts down front of bed are lead screw, feed rod and clutch control rod
Like other simple lathes, the head stock drives a train of gears down left end to QC gear box for selecting differing feeds and threads - you select between feeds and threads at right end of QC box
Extra motor if coolant pump
Maybe another if rapid traverse
Its just a bigger heavier version of this. All those gears have to be in first class condition
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v337/johnoder/Monarch/DCP_0829.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v337/johnoder/Monarch/DCP_0830.jpg
Such things have no value until there is a customer that just have to have it. It got into the scrap yard because there was no customer wanting it.
Six months back there was a CREAM PUFF 27N on CL in the Reno NV area listed at $6500. The listing expired. Maybe it moved out at a fraction of that. Maybe it just went to scrap.
Shafts down front of bed are lead screw, feed rod and clutch control rod
Like other simple lathes, the head stock drives a train of gears down left end to QC gear box for selecting differing feeds and threads - you select between feeds and threads at right end of QC box
Extra motor if coolant pump
Maybe another if rapid traverse
Its just a bigger heavier version of this. All those gears have to be in first class condition
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v337/johnoder/Monarch/DCP_0829.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v337/johnoder/Monarch/DCP_0830.jpg
Such things have no value until there is a customer that just have to have it. It got into the scrap yard because there was no customer wanting it.
Six months back there was a CREAM PUFF 27N on CL in the Reno NV area listed at $6500. The listing expired. Maybe it moved out at a fraction of that. Maybe it just went to scrap.
I picked on up a couple of years ago just for the steady rest. 450.00 I finally got around to find the problem why the one shifter would not stay in gear, It is the gear in Ox's second picture at the right end of the scale that is the problem. I pulled the middle shaft and found a pin sheared off allowing the gear to move too far and fall out of position. I still have to get back at it to fix it.
John
John
Chknives
Aluminum
- Joined
- Jan 16, 2015
- Location
- Oregon city, Oregon
I saw a really nice 24n go for like $2250 in washington. Ways didn't have any scoring and everything seemed to operate properly. There was also a really nice american pacemaker with a 32" swing I think go for $4200. Oh and what bothered me was I got outbid on a sag 17 with tons of tooling and it sold for like $4500.
glenbjackson
Aluminum
- Joined
- Nov 16, 2015
I have to humbly disagree(im pretty new to the machinery scene), I think there's value, its just that there's more initial cost(money and TIME to actually "getting" it) than perceived opportunity value, that wont be put to use by most. so value goes down to almost nothing but if it was say advertised with delivery....way more demand. even without though if its low enough someone will get it.
Got my Monarch 27N home only cost me 2 tires and 1 rim for my trailer ! not sure what it weighs the guy I bought it from said about 9K ?
I'm thinking maybe a little over 15K ? My tractor can pick 6K it will squat a little and threaten to tip over'just have to move real slow with no sudden moves or it will tip for sure with 6K.
The last person to move the machine was kinda of rough on her I have several broken pirces I will have to replace I plan to make all my replacement parts unless someone knows where I can get a deal on them somewhere. I have a few pics of whats was damaged.
I'm thinking maybe a little over 15K ? My tractor can pick 6K it will squat a little and threaten to tip over'just have to move real slow with no sudden moves or it will tip for sure with 6K.
The last person to move the machine was kinda of rough on her I have several broken pirces I will have to replace I plan to make all my replacement parts unless someone knows where I can get a deal on them somewhere. I have a few pics of whats was damaged.
Got the Monarch unloaded today it was a big project. I removed the head,tailstock,center rest and about 100# or more of chips and still had a hard time with it. Basically I drug it off the back of the trailer picked up one end and drove the trailer out from under it. It is now waiting patiently in the yard for me to get the concrete in the shop to get it set up.
Might be another month before I can make any chips with it.
Might be another month before I can make any chips with it.
FirstEliminator
Cast Iron
- Joined
- Jul 4, 2007
- Location
- North Adams, Massachusetts
Awesome. I think 15,000 pounds is more like it. I have a 1952 Monarch that is 16x126 and it supposedly weighs 12,000.
glenbjackson
Aluminum
- Joined
- Nov 16, 2015
lol negative mine is only 60" between centers and its 8t.... so id guess at least another 2 real tonnes maybe.
