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08-19-2005, 02:36 PM
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Diamond
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Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: Beaufort, SC, USA
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Oh.........my.........gawd.........
WOW !
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08-19-2005, 03:01 PM
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Titanium
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Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Gaithersburg, MD USA
Posts: 2,678
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To beautiful for words. Thats a hell of a machine. Nicely done.
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08-19-2005, 03:38 PM
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Titanium
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Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Salinas, CA USA
Posts: 2,710
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VSR too! Adding ELSR & VSR must have been an interesting conversion with the late model DC controller.
Did you get a Monarch schematic that covered this particular combination, or design the control circuit yourself?
A lot of work, very nicely done!
-Dave
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08-19-2005, 03:57 PM
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Titanium
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Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Albuquerque, NM USA
Posts: 3,802
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A really nice looking lathe, you must be proud.
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08-19-2005, 04:14 PM
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Hot Rolled
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Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Rockford, IL
Posts: 539
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Beautiful machine! You should be proud of yourself!
What year is it? Can you post a picture of the patent plate?
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08-19-2005, 04:32 PM
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Stainless
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Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: dallas
Posts: 1,358
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Very nice!!, I would consider a late 30"I/M with a ELSR, Taper, etc., to be the EE ultimate. Gary Ripesh here in Dallas has a original? 30" with ELSR. I don't care what D. Thomas says, A nice EE looks better than those cold square Swiss bitches anyday. 
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08-19-2005, 05:42 PM
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Hot Rolled
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Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Rochester, NY USA
Posts: 697
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That's awesome! Spectacular job. Your attention to detail is incredible! Keep up the good work.
You should look at the spindle speed pot and consider electrical cleaner to clean it.
Steve
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08-19-2005, 05:42 PM
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Hot Rolled
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Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Montana
Posts: 760
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Nick:
Super photos of a superb machine .
If they were giving out trophies for quality work on fine machines you would have one to set up along side of your 4 jaw .
Where did you have your bed reground and did they scrape in the carriage and tail stock also?
Did you do the paint too?
Again a FINE job.
Hal
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08-19-2005, 06:36 PM
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Aluminum
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Join Date: Nov 2003
Posts: 76
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The main machine is 1987 and the bed is from a 1967. I had the bed ground and everything scraped including the tail stock and carriage. I fit the bed to the base. It was done by a local company Hadley Machine located in Minneapolis Minnesota. If I remember correctly it was around$2,000.00 for everything. Other then that I did everything including the paint.
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08-19-2005, 07:25 PM
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Diamond
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Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: Beaufort, SC, USA
Posts: 31,475
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I don't care what D. Thomas says, A nice EE looks better than those cold square Swiss bitches anyday.
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Do you like your women with really large butts too ? [img]tongue.gif[/img]
The 10ee is one of the finest lathes ever made, but to me, not quite the masterpiece of function and asthetics present in a Hardinge HLV-H, and the later Schaublins. I've had at least 3 10ee's over the years and would love to have another one at some point though.
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08-19-2005, 07:48 PM
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Titanium
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Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: San Francisco, CA
Posts: 2,785
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You know you'll never be able to sell that thing on eBay with it looking like that. But I'm going to be painting the front of my house soon and I'd be glad to donate some good quality house paint so you could spiff it up to make it really attractive to the discerning eBay buyer.
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Looks NICE!
cheers,
Michael
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08-19-2005, 08:20 PM
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Stainless
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Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: dallas
Posts: 1,358
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Don, actually I like all sizes, as long ass its firm. Butt, I digress.... Truthfully, your ex-160 is in a honored spot in my tool porn collection.
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08-20-2005, 03:25 AM
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Titanium
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Join Date: May 2003
Location: Walla Walla Wine and Wild Turkey
Posts: 3,530
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Super nice machine, thanks for posting the photos.
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08-20-2005, 06:37 AM
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Diamond
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Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Columbia, TN, USA
Posts: 10,340
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Oragrag,
Truly impressive on the idea and the fine execution.
I noticed with very much interest that you have a Newall C80 DRO (??) on your EE.
I wondered if you would be willing to share some details about what model you bought and how the scales are mounted.
Knowing, of course that the 20" machine will require a shorter bed-scale, but nonetheless this accessory is high on my list.
PS: Also I've never seen a solid-state drive up close & personal if you were willing to post some photos.
TIA
-Matt
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08-20-2005, 12:00 PM
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Cast Iron
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Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Bergen, NJ.
Posts: 421
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Ok, now that I ( and many others) have a severe case of inferiority complex looking at that thing , you must make it up by showing us some of the photos of your building process . I would bet that the new ones from Monarch itself would not look that good. Congratulations for a fantastic job.
Khanh
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08-20-2005, 04:14 PM
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Diamond
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Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Monterey Bay, California
Posts: 8,580
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"Also I've never seen a solid-state drive up close & personal if you were willing to post some photos."
Below is a link to several photos of a "Monarch Sidney" solid-state drive, AKA "regenerative".
The motor has a tachometer for fully closed-loop control.
The drive proper is open, and contained on two boards.
It is a simple (yeah, everything is relative!) three-phase SCR drive.
Three phases must be supplied because even the control section operates on three-phase. A well-balanced RPC would be a must. Or a Phase Perfect.
The way the motor is connected to the "power blocks" (integrated SCRs) it is impossible to utilize a series field. Apparently, Monarch elected to use tachometer feedback for load compensation, instead.
(However, the third-party "Joliet" drive found a way to use both series field and tachometer feedback compensation).
The "Monarch Sidney" drive, although very complicated in terms of parts count, and quite high-tech in terms of design, contains very few special parts.
Although, it does contain some which are obsolete, and for which replacements would be difficult to acquire.
You can view some photos of a "Monarch Sidney" drive Here .
Following the photos is a spirited discussion of some of the maintenance issues with this drive, including the drive's major (semiconductor) parts list.
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08-20-2005, 06:01 PM
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Aluminum
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Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: A sea of corn, IL
Posts: 57
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Awesome. How much time and money to you have invested at this point?
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08-20-2005, 07:01 PM
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Diamond
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Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Monterey Bay, California
Posts: 8,580
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Looks like your taper attachment has drain holes in each slide bearing housing, indicated below:
Are these original, or were these added?
My TA has no such holes, and I'm sure the destruction of the four bearings, and the extreme pitting of the slide were caused by retention of coolant, and I desire to modify my TA to incorporate these holes.
Can you state the diameter of the holes, and the displacement from the slide bearing axes?
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