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New to p300- tool nose radius questions

WILLEO6709

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On my new LB3000- P300 control.

I have a gibbscam mtm post we are working the bugs out of. One of the issues I have been having is that I think both the P300 and gibbscam are trying to compensate for the nose radius and that creates errors. I did not write it down but something about radius too small yadda yadda yadda.

example:
N18 G0 Z.01
N19 X3.05
N20 G1 Z-2.6058
N21 X3.0507 Z-2.6062
N22 X3.1307 Z-2.6462
N23 G3 X3.149 Z-2.6682 I-.0221 K-.022
N24 G1 Z-3.537
N25 X3.15
N26 G0 Z.01
N27 X2.95
N28 G1 Z-2.597
N29 X3.0065
N30 G3 X3.05 Z-2.6058 I0.K-.0312
N31 G0 Z.01

This is a part of a roughing pass. The tool nose radius in the tool table is 0.0312 inches. Taking it down to 0.031 made no difference. Since I have no option in Gibbscam to NOT use radii or control the size of the radii in roughing, I figure maybe a secondary tool offset with a zero radius may be my solution. I do have IGF on this machine, which I plan on using for simple one off parts. I need the radius for that to work correctly.
I plan on doing some kinda crazy milled contours on some parts in the lathe, much more than can be done in igf, so I need igf, tnr compensation, and gibbscam to come to some kind of truce.

The secondary offset worth a try?
 
hy, i got lost reading your post :) what i mean is that you have "a lot" of questions/issues ...

let's reload ... i can mill without problems, on mill or lathe, and i will help you :) so, please :

... upload a drawing with your part/toolpath
... specify tool diameter
... specify lathe / mill

I will give you a general code that works without problem, and you will be able to adapt it for whatever 2D shape.
Also, you may use it's structure to configure your CAM / kindly !

ps : like this, you leave behind your problems, and start fresh with something that will work :)
 
On my new LB3000- P300 control.

example:
N18 G0 Z.01
N19 X3.05
N20 G1 Z-2.6058
N21 X3.0507 Z-2.6062
N22 X3.1307 Z-2.6462
N23 G3 X3.149 Z-2.6682 I-.0221 K-.022
N24 G1 Z-3.537
N25 X3.15
N26 G0 Z.01
N27 X2.95
N28 G1 Z-2.597
N29 X3.0065
N30 G3 X3.05 Z-2.6058 I0.K-.0312
N31 G0 Z.01

Just taking a look, I don't see G41/G42 in your program. Is the tool nose radius even being applied? Can I see more of your code from Gibbs?

Typically, CAM software's are doing the math for tool nose radii and therefore it is not used in the CNC control as the math is already done. This could be the reason for the lack of G41/G42 output.
 
On my new LB3000- P300 control.

I have a gibbscam mtm post we are working the bugs out of. One of the issues I have been having is that I think both the P300 and gibbscam are trying to compensate for the nose radius and that creates errors. I did not write it down but something about radius too small yadda yadda yadda.

example:
N18 G0 Z.01
N19 X3.05
N20 G1 Z-2.6058
N21 X3.0507 Z-2.6062
N22 X3.1307 Z-2.6462
N23 G3 X3.149 Z-2.6682 I-.0221 K-.022
N24 G1 Z-3.537
N25 X3.15
N26 G0 Z.01
N27 X2.95
N28 G1 Z-2.597
N29 X3.0065
N30 G3 X3.05 Z-2.6058 I0.K-.0312
N31 G0 Z.01

This is a part of a roughing pass. The tool nose radius in the tool table is 0.0312 inches. Taking it down to 0.031 made no difference. Since I have no option in Gibbscam to NOT use radii or control the size of the radii in roughing, I figure maybe a secondary tool offset with a zero radius may be my solution. I do have IGF on this machine, which I plan on using for simple one off parts. I need the radius for that to work correctly.
I plan on doing some kinda crazy milled contours on some parts in the lathe, much more than can be done in igf, so I need igf, tnr compensation, and gibbscam to come to some kind of truce.

The secondary offset worth a try?

Post the alarm you're getting. The control won't care if you use TNR or not as long as the start, end and center of the arcs all jive. I would guess your Cam system is taking the TNR into account when outputting code. With no G41 or G42 it won't matter what TNR you have on your offset page as the control won't be looking to apply comp.

If you're getting errors I'd look at your cam system.

The endpoints of your arc on N30 don't look like they match up with N28 and N29 as start points. Are you getting arc alarms?
 








 
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