cinematechnic
Cast Iron
- Joined
- Apr 11, 2005
- Location
- Walnut Creek, CA
I was hoping you guys could help me out with your input.
I own a very nice Schaublin 102N that I've had since 2004. When I visited the Schaublin factory they ran the serial number and told me it was delivered to Hirschmann Co. in 1982.
Since I moved to Los Angeles, the machine has been in climate controlled storage. The plan was to keep it as my "insurance policy" in case the new job didn't work out and I had to set up my own shop again.
I'm currently doing service of very high end movie camera lenses at the company I work for. I'm routinely working on $20k+ prime lenses. I've been telling them for a while that we need to have our own small machine shop. Recently I was told they might consider buying my lathe.
The plus of making this deal would be that I would be the one using the machine. But it would no longer be mine.
Now, I originally did not plan on selling. I'm not sure they are ready for what this machine is worth. With the collapse of the dollar and the Swiss Franc's strength, many of the items I purchased for this machine are worth much more than they cost even just a few years ago.
But I need to get some independent opinions on what the value of my equipment is in the current market in the U.S. I would also be interested to know what the package would sell for in Europe. Obviously if the price was high enough, the shipping would be worth it.
The machine is mostly metric, but I have an inch carriage as well. For the work I do, almost exclusively on European made lenses, metric is preferred.
So, here is a basic description of what I have:
TO 102N-80 Schaublin 102N on Cast Iron Base, W25 sindle (1982) gray, SN 30043x
Bed is in good condition, some wear but grind marks visible over almost entire length. Lathe has 1.5 kW 2-speed motor, clutch and brake system with foot pedals. Paint is in very good condition, electrics have been overhauled. Very clean, no rust anywhere, no old grease or any other "dirty" elements. Waldmann HI-20 worklight.
102-45.000 Screw operated carriage, 3.54 travel, inch (low wear)
102-45.000 Screw operated carriage, 90mm travel, metric (almost no backlash)
105-67.000 Star-wheel drilling tailstock W25 (metric, very good condition)
105-65.000 Tailstock MT-2 (metric, good condition)
105-30.600 Lever operated quick-closing attachment (I have two: one W25, one W20 - I use the W20 drawbar with the W25->W20 adapter)
202-99240 Autotransformer 2.5kVA (lathe has 380V motor but can run off 208V 3Ø or higher)
105-25.069 Pratt Burnerd 150mm 4 jaw independent chuck with W25 spindle (P-B cat no. 1548-16180 purchased as new old stock
Maprox ZW 100mm 3-jaw chuck, mounted on W25 shank
Maprox JF 150mm 6-jaw chuck (new, unmounted)
Maprox JF 100mm 6-jaw chuck (2x, W25 and W12 shanks)
Maprox JF 100mm 8-jaw chuck
Tripan set: 2x 111 toolposts, multiple toolholders including regular, angled, and cut-off holder
Milling attachment, W20, with vertical slide (worn but decent condition could use reconditioning)
Grinding attachment, B8 spindle
Steady rest, fixed roller type (ball bearing)
Collets: Total of about 100 W20 and W25 collets, full metric set in 0.5, most inch sizes in 1/4, 1/8, 1/16th increments, many are new, W25->W20 reduction adapter, spindle centers, many collet closers and step chucks
Many other small and hard to find accessories that I can't list at the moment. The results of years spent lurking on eBay when it was good, and two tool hunting expeditions in Switzerland.
I would really appreciate getting some input on what the package is worth, and if anyone knows of any recent sales of similar machines.
Thanks in advance!
I own a very nice Schaublin 102N that I've had since 2004. When I visited the Schaublin factory they ran the serial number and told me it was delivered to Hirschmann Co. in 1982.
Since I moved to Los Angeles, the machine has been in climate controlled storage. The plan was to keep it as my "insurance policy" in case the new job didn't work out and I had to set up my own shop again.
I'm currently doing service of very high end movie camera lenses at the company I work for. I'm routinely working on $20k+ prime lenses. I've been telling them for a while that we need to have our own small machine shop. Recently I was told they might consider buying my lathe.
The plus of making this deal would be that I would be the one using the machine. But it would no longer be mine.
Now, I originally did not plan on selling. I'm not sure they are ready for what this machine is worth. With the collapse of the dollar and the Swiss Franc's strength, many of the items I purchased for this machine are worth much more than they cost even just a few years ago.
But I need to get some independent opinions on what the value of my equipment is in the current market in the U.S. I would also be interested to know what the package would sell for in Europe. Obviously if the price was high enough, the shipping would be worth it.
The machine is mostly metric, but I have an inch carriage as well. For the work I do, almost exclusively on European made lenses, metric is preferred.
So, here is a basic description of what I have:
TO 102N-80 Schaublin 102N on Cast Iron Base, W25 sindle (1982) gray, SN 30043x
Bed is in good condition, some wear but grind marks visible over almost entire length. Lathe has 1.5 kW 2-speed motor, clutch and brake system with foot pedals. Paint is in very good condition, electrics have been overhauled. Very clean, no rust anywhere, no old grease or any other "dirty" elements. Waldmann HI-20 worklight.
102-45.000 Screw operated carriage, 3.54 travel, inch (low wear)
102-45.000 Screw operated carriage, 90mm travel, metric (almost no backlash)
105-67.000 Star-wheel drilling tailstock W25 (metric, very good condition)
105-65.000 Tailstock MT-2 (metric, good condition)
105-30.600 Lever operated quick-closing attachment (I have two: one W25, one W20 - I use the W20 drawbar with the W25->W20 adapter)
202-99240 Autotransformer 2.5kVA (lathe has 380V motor but can run off 208V 3Ø or higher)
105-25.069 Pratt Burnerd 150mm 4 jaw independent chuck with W25 spindle (P-B cat no. 1548-16180 purchased as new old stock
Maprox ZW 100mm 3-jaw chuck, mounted on W25 shank
Maprox JF 150mm 6-jaw chuck (new, unmounted)
Maprox JF 100mm 6-jaw chuck (2x, W25 and W12 shanks)
Maprox JF 100mm 8-jaw chuck
Tripan set: 2x 111 toolposts, multiple toolholders including regular, angled, and cut-off holder
Milling attachment, W20, with vertical slide (worn but decent condition could use reconditioning)
Grinding attachment, B8 spindle
Steady rest, fixed roller type (ball bearing)
Collets: Total of about 100 W20 and W25 collets, full metric set in 0.5, most inch sizes in 1/4, 1/8, 1/16th increments, many are new, W25->W20 reduction adapter, spindle centers, many collet closers and step chucks
Many other small and hard to find accessories that I can't list at the moment. The results of years spent lurking on eBay when it was good, and two tool hunting expeditions in Switzerland.
I would really appreciate getting some input on what the package is worth, and if anyone knows of any recent sales of similar machines.
Thanks in advance!