craigd
Aluminum
- Joined
- Dec 15, 2010
- Location
- Canada, Alberta
I'm not sure if this is where to post S & B 1024 topics, but it seems to be a quality European machine - so here goes.
I am a home shop guy. I don’t really have a main theme area that I focus on. Basically I work on stuff, usually repairing or modifying whatever “treasure” I have picked up from an auction, dumpster or cast off that someone has save for me.
I have had a 15x60 lathe (Enterprise 1550) for quite a few years. I think it is a decent enough machine, it works well for me.
The majority of what I do would be well handled on a smaller lathe. I have been looking for a good smaller lathe for a while. I knew this S&B was coming up at a local auction (see my thread over on the Deckel, Maho, ... page: "would-maho-mh600-good-home-shop-tinkerer-type-guy-part-ii-218524")
This S&B was simply another poorly described auction posting (no model number, not even a picture until 3 days prior). I knew this S&B was out of the tool room of a local technical school and was probably a 1024. The milling machine from the same location (purchased a month earlier) had not been used much, had a good bunch of accessories, and really just needed cleaning.
Once the photo was posted on the auction site, it cleared up the model number, but also showed the broken cross feed.
Often at auctions, there is a bunch of unrelated items that end up being thrown in – I thought there maybe some pieces associated with the Maho milling machine? I liked that the spindle mount was the same as my other lathe and was hoping there would be a good assortment of accessories. Also thinking the obvious damage should bring the price down.
Obviously, I went for it. I brought home S&B 1024 Serial Number S7071 (240V 3Ø machine). I have been in touch with Chris at Bracehand – a 1963 machine.
Re the cross slide, I suspect the rear end of the cross slide was bumped on the far end and that the outer housing (right by the CF hand wheel) got pushed outward – toward where the operator would stand (the feet under the 4 small cap screws remained in place). I have disassembled the cross slide, there is also a small sleeve on the cross slide screw with a short tapered fit to the driven gear of the surfacing feed - this got split. See the pictures posted seperately.
The machine is badly in need of a cleanup, and the paint is in tough shape (though from various internet pictures, not the worst you’ll see). The cross slide screw is worn in the active region (not quite to sharp points but the top of the thread is about half as wide as in the non-worn region).
Also, there are no wipers (not even the covers or the holding screws) on the saddle, no tool holders for the QC tool post (Rapid Original Type A) – are the issues discovered so far.
It came with standard accessories: 3 jaw, 4 jaw, fixed and traveling steadies, collet drawbar, taper attachment, carriage stop and the above tool post. The coolant system is present, less the pump (perhaps this was not original as there is no on/off switch for coolant pump on the control panel). The machine is fitted with a “Brooks Magnetic Break” – I am looking forward to seeing how that works out.
I contacted the local technical school that had this machine – they generously provided the file on this machine. I now have:
- Operating and Maintenance Instructions
- Spare Parts and General Assembly manual
- 1024 product brochure
- Series “L” Capstan Lathe product brochure
- “Additional Headstocks for the Series “L” product brochure
- Model “A” product brochure
- Precision 4” Centre Lathe product brochure
- Revised 1024 wiring diagram (1998)
The first two are readily available on the internet. I’d be glad to share copies of these with interested folks. If someone can tell me how to post PDF files I’ll try uploading them.
I am looking forward to getting the machine cleaned up and working, but I am in the midst of building a new workshop (which I wasn’t going to start filling up with machines until the interior walls were up, but when opportunity arrives, sometimes you have to run with it) – so I need to get it further along before going at the S&B. The Maho mill needs some attention too, and since I need a mill more than I need a second lathe (and will likely need the mill to repair the lathe), that puts the S&B a little further down the project list! I’ll post progress pictures, but it will be a while.
Any advise or recommendations folks want to share - accepted great fully.
Enjoy, David
I am a home shop guy. I don’t really have a main theme area that I focus on. Basically I work on stuff, usually repairing or modifying whatever “treasure” I have picked up from an auction, dumpster or cast off that someone has save for me.
I have had a 15x60 lathe (Enterprise 1550) for quite a few years. I think it is a decent enough machine, it works well for me.
The majority of what I do would be well handled on a smaller lathe. I have been looking for a good smaller lathe for a while. I knew this S&B was coming up at a local auction (see my thread over on the Deckel, Maho, ... page: "would-maho-mh600-good-home-shop-tinkerer-type-guy-part-ii-218524")
This S&B was simply another poorly described auction posting (no model number, not even a picture until 3 days prior). I knew this S&B was out of the tool room of a local technical school and was probably a 1024. The milling machine from the same location (purchased a month earlier) had not been used much, had a good bunch of accessories, and really just needed cleaning.
Once the photo was posted on the auction site, it cleared up the model number, but also showed the broken cross feed.
Often at auctions, there is a bunch of unrelated items that end up being thrown in – I thought there maybe some pieces associated with the Maho milling machine? I liked that the spindle mount was the same as my other lathe and was hoping there would be a good assortment of accessories. Also thinking the obvious damage should bring the price down.
Obviously, I went for it. I brought home S&B 1024 Serial Number S7071 (240V 3Ø machine). I have been in touch with Chris at Bracehand – a 1963 machine.
Re the cross slide, I suspect the rear end of the cross slide was bumped on the far end and that the outer housing (right by the CF hand wheel) got pushed outward – toward where the operator would stand (the feet under the 4 small cap screws remained in place). I have disassembled the cross slide, there is also a small sleeve on the cross slide screw with a short tapered fit to the driven gear of the surfacing feed - this got split. See the pictures posted seperately.
The machine is badly in need of a cleanup, and the paint is in tough shape (though from various internet pictures, not the worst you’ll see). The cross slide screw is worn in the active region (not quite to sharp points but the top of the thread is about half as wide as in the non-worn region).
Also, there are no wipers (not even the covers or the holding screws) on the saddle, no tool holders for the QC tool post (Rapid Original Type A) – are the issues discovered so far.
It came with standard accessories: 3 jaw, 4 jaw, fixed and traveling steadies, collet drawbar, taper attachment, carriage stop and the above tool post. The coolant system is present, less the pump (perhaps this was not original as there is no on/off switch for coolant pump on the control panel). The machine is fitted with a “Brooks Magnetic Break” – I am looking forward to seeing how that works out.
I contacted the local technical school that had this machine – they generously provided the file on this machine. I now have:
- Operating and Maintenance Instructions
- Spare Parts and General Assembly manual
- 1024 product brochure
- Series “L” Capstan Lathe product brochure
- “Additional Headstocks for the Series “L” product brochure
- Model “A” product brochure
- Precision 4” Centre Lathe product brochure
- Revised 1024 wiring diagram (1998)
The first two are readily available on the internet. I’d be glad to share copies of these with interested folks. If someone can tell me how to post PDF files I’ll try uploading them.
I am looking forward to getting the machine cleaned up and working, but I am in the midst of building a new workshop (which I wasn’t going to start filling up with machines until the interior walls were up, but when opportunity arrives, sometimes you have to run with it) – so I need to get it further along before going at the S&B. The Maho mill needs some attention too, and since I need a mill more than I need a second lathe (and will likely need the mill to repair the lathe), that puts the S&B a little further down the project list! I’ll post progress pictures, but it will be a while.
Any advise or recommendations folks want to share - accepted great fully.
Enjoy, David