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    He was a dick. Capitol on the other hand has a...

    He was a dick.
    Capitol on the other hand has a mandatory economic reason for acting that way.
    If a nice guy comes I. He will be run out of business by the not so nice guy.
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    I'll try to find that section of labor law...it's...

    I'll try to find that section of labor law...it's been a while since I sat through that class.
    But within a 'bargaining unit' the company has to pay the same, union member or not.
    The facility or...
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    All shops must be Open to employ non union...

    All shops must be Open to employ non union members.
    However...the shop is union and all employees are under the 'bargaining unit'.
    That means the union and non union employees have the same...
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    Blah blah ...military...blah...cops...blah...

    Blah blah ...military...blah...cops...blah...
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    Actually no...the company prefers to NOT give the...

    Actually no...the company prefers to NOT give the same deal.
    That's why they hire scabs, change laws and (have) murdered people.
    The only reason they do is because the law requires them to.

    Do...
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    That's nice...were you working under a union...

    That's nice...were you working under a union negotiated package? Mooches?
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    So you accepted the wages and bennies they fought...

    So you accepted the wages and bennies they fought for...and didn't pay it back.
    Mooches.
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    In short... Public sector employees have what...

    In short...
    Public sector employees have what the private sector had 40 years ago when labor had economic and political power.
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    Fine...hire an entire new school system. It's...

    Fine...hire an entire new school system.
    It's called collective bargaining.

    Do you really want the lowest bidder carrying a gun and teaching your kids..with a gun?

    When would they go on...
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    I don't say so...it's true. Every year capital...

    I don't say so...it's true.
    Every year capital tries to roll back protections.
    Every year, labor tries to stop it.
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    It's not the owners...its the economics. well,...

    It's not the owners...its the economics.
    well, there are a few serrious assholes out there actively trying to screw the nations workers.

    And those guys WILL either drive you out of business or...
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    Interesting, I'll have to look into that. What's...

    Interesting, I'll have to look into that.
    What's your source?

    I was talking about the much more hardcore labor movement of the North West...The IWW.
    What was essentially the US Communist Labor...
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    Funny... All those textile plants back east...

    Funny...
    All those textile plants back east relied on the same model.
    The tool makers who buy 'import' because the USA is too steep.
    It's a matter of basic economics.
    If you are selling something...
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    Yes...government does have those regulations....

    Yes...government does have those regulations.
    Because unions fight for them every year.
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    How about how the hard left labor movement...

    How about how the hard left labor movement stopped agitating during the war.

    Wars are funny...they show just how effective a command economy can be.
    Really think market forces built the industry...
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    Which is fine and dandy until some one not as...

    Which is fine and dandy until some one not as nice as you cuts you out.
    Capital has to compete too.
    If your competitor off shores, you have two choices, go broke or follow.
    If his labor is...
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    One of thoudands. And you can't compete with...

    One of thoudands.
    And you can't compete with those willing to ermine wages down and extract maximum profit.
    Anymore than you can compete with offshoring.
    Just like labor, capital has to compete as...
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    It once was filled with slave labor... Company...

    It once was filled with slave labor...
    Company towns and scrip.
    No protections at all.
    All out physical war.

    Why do you think we have unions at all?

    And you are a fool if you think the...
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    I've been in a lot of different plants, union and...

    I've been in a lot of different plants, union and not.
    Pretty much no common thread.
    Always a few slow walkers, a few pricks, a few people that won't let you do your job.

    I will say this, the...
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