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    Absolutely.
    And very fair, and usually pre-reserved/arranged for those available to answer.

    And if not, I would as the boss call any of the top technicians, even on weekends.
    And on their personal numbers/phones.
    And every single one of these calls meant $$ / cash box ching and free time to the one answering the phone.
    And every single one was free to tell me "not now" for whatever reason.

    But no-one else could call them, or have the numbers. This is critical.
    A senior executive -me at that time- might call you for help.
    Fair enough.
    And then You get properly compensated for it (good money).

    And everyone was asked in advance, and told it is kind of expected to provide advice, if you can, when you can, at 200%++ salary in emergencies only.
    Almost all engineers were extremely happy to do so practically always.

    One might (very very rare) make 4-6 hours work time, on a sunday, via telephone. My case. Another biz. Still.
    5 x 30 x 300% = 450 $.

    My POV.
    As both a co-worker and an executive manager.
    I never ever want to bother someone on their weekend.
    But if we must, and really need your skills, then it is fair for me to ask, and for You to decide.

    It is ALSO fair for You to (sometimes) state this needs extra cash (==200% more x the 300% sunday extra). Maybe You are fishing with your kids, at the cottage, family affairs, whatever. All are valid at *your* discretion.
    My POV:
    If I call on anyone as an expert to fix anything on sundays/etc esp. on-site physically ..
    it is a major issue from the customer and they will pay accordingly- potentially-typically saving in the terms of tens of thousands.
    I always paid 600-1200$+ to the worker(s) per incident.

    This resulted on mostly-everyone being happy to fix my emergencies, including at 3 am while needing taxi transport cause they could not drive.
    Problems appeared after some were expecting the 2000$ bonus when they had not had calls or done the work on weekends.



    Quote Originally Posted by MattiJ View Post
    Some companies actually pay you some fixed fee if you have to pick up your phone during your free days or on the middle of the night. I mark half an hour for every phone call outside office hours. Its not much if you NEED the info but it also keeps no-nonsense phone calls at minimum.

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    +Excellent.
    Business is driven by businessmen, mostly like the small biz people here.
    60%+ of all jobs/hires are done by the small-biz guys.

    My take:
    I have found it surprisingly easy to get to talk to the mayor of the city, local gov. president, and regional president or the equivalent managing director of the local water/electric/internet authority including the national governor for same.
    Most of them ..
    are smart, driven, .. and have very few real clever entrepreneurs to talk to.

    Ime most of the top politicians are actually smart, nice, and will really try to help You .. when You are not begging for handouts.


    Quote Originally Posted by Toolroomguy View Post
    I have met with the Governor twice.
    Its amazing to talk to a politician who thinks business is something to be encouraged, instead of something you latch on to ,leach like, to suck money out of.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toolroomguy View Post
    I have met with the Governor twice.
    Its amazing to talk to a politician who thinks business is something to be encouraged, instead of something you latch on to ,leach like, to suck money out of.
    You mean like our old Danish governor, Jim Doyle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gordon B. Clarke View Post
    I was going to doubt what you wrote about the unemployment percentage but found this.

    unemployment percent in wisconsin - Google Search

    Must admit I was (pleasantly) surprised. What on Earth has happened the past 7 years?
    And in the county we are located we are seeing an unemployment rate of 2.3%.

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    Is there any update to this thread? Did the OP find good employees that will work out for him?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barry Weeks View Post
    Is there any update to this thread? Did the OP find good employees that will work out for him?
    seems so- it was back a couple of pages buried between some of the "denmark is the most medicated....I mean happiest bestest place on earth and you should aaaaaall be just like us" posts.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by 77ironhead View Post
    seems so- it was back a couple of pages buried between some of the "denmark is the most medicated....I mean happiest bestest place on earth and you should aaaaaall be just like us" posts.....
    I was just wondering if after 4 months everything had worked out with the replacements, or if the replacements needed replacing too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 77ironhead View Post
    seems so- it was back a couple of pages buried between some of the "denmark is the most medicated....I mean happiest bestest place on earth and you should aaaaaall be just like us" posts.....
    Isn't JEALOUSY one of the 7 deadly sins?

    Forbes Welcome

    Finland is the world's happiest country 218 - World Happiness Report - Business Insider Nordic

    Wouldn't it cheer you up (as in be happier) if you had 5 weeks paid vacation time every year plus guaranteed healthcare and all the other goodies we have?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gordon B. Clarke View Post
    Isn't JEALOUSY one of the 7 deadly sins?

    Forbes Welcome

    Finland is the world's happiest country 218 - World Happiness Report - Business Insider Nordic

    Wouldn't it cheer you up (as in be happier) if you had 5 weeks paid vacation time every year plus guaranteed healthcare and all the other goodies we have?
    I think the jealousy is on your part. I had a job with 7 weeks vacation, full Blue Cross family coverage for $2.00 a month and a very good wage. I quit that job in 1993 because I was completely bored. I wouldn't trade places with you, I would be bored to death.

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    Quote Originally Posted by converterking View Post
    I think the jealousy is on your part. I had a job with 7 weeks vacation, full Blue Cross family coverage for $2.00 a month and a very good wage. I quit that job in 1993 because I was completely bored. I wouldn't trade places with you, I would be bored to death.
    Ahhh...
    The good old days.
    It never ceases to surprise me that with all that time and money people can’t keep themselves interested.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Miguels244 View Post
    Ahhh...
    The good old days.
    It never ceases to surprise me that with all that time and money people can’t keep themselves interested.
    Why is that the good old days. My wife works 36 hours a week and has 7 weeks vacation. We both have $750 max out of pocket Blue Cross with dental, eye care, disability and life insurance for $260 a month through her employer. Why would I want to work at a job I didn't enjoy?

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    Quote Originally Posted by converterking View Post
    Why is that the good old days. My wife works 36 hours a week and has 7 weeks vacation. We both have $750 max out of pocket Blue Cross with dental, eye care, disability and life insurance for $260 a month through her employer. Why would I want to work at a job I didn't enjoy?
    Not many of those jobs left...
    My brothers the same way, his wife has golden bennies and he gets to fuck off doing what he wants.
    Try finding those jobs as a 25 year old today.
    Back in the 90s that was just about par for the course if you weren’t a jackass.
    Now...not so much.

    Thus...the good old days.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gordon B. Clarke View Post
    Isn't JEALOUSY one of the 7 deadly sins?

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    Finland is the world's happiest country 218 - World Happiness Report - Business Insider Nordic

    Wouldn't it cheer you up (as in be happier) if you had 5 weeks paid vacation time every year plus guaranteed healthcare and all the other goodies we have?
    jealous of what, pray tell? go ahead and google the percentage of Danes taking anti-depressants and compare it to the US, and get back to me.

    I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than those attending too small a degree of it. - Thomas Jefferson

    you can keep your socialism, tyvm

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    Quote Originally Posted by Miguels244 View Post
    My brothers the same way, his wife has golden bennies and he gets to fuck off doing what he wants.
    If your brother is making money doing what he wants while his wife gets the benefits, why is that f--king off? My wife was a stay at home mom for 14 years while I supported my family. After she went to work I got to do what I enjoyed and made even more money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 77ironhead View Post
    jealous of what, pray tell? go ahead and google the percentage of Danes taking anti-depressants and compare it to the US, and get back to me.

    I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than those attending too small a degree of it. - Thomas Jefferson

    you can keep your socialism, tyvm
    Jefferson didn’t have to worry about shit.
    He was an oligarch.

    Never the less...
    He was no fan of what the USA calls freedom these days.
    There is... an artificial aristocracy founded on wealth and birth, without either virtue or talents... The artificial aristocracy is a mischievous ingredient in government, and provision should be made to prevent its ascendency.

    Thomas Jefferson

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    Quote Originally Posted by Miguels244 View Post
    Jefferson didn’t have to worry about shit.
    He was an oligarch.

    Never the less...
    He was no fan of what the USA calls freedom these days.
    There is... an artificial aristocracy founded on wealth and birth, without either virtue or talents... The artificial aristocracy is a mischievous ingredient in government, and provision should be made to prevent its ascendency.

    Thomas Jefferson

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    soooo- you're saying he was what he warned about.....?

    aside from that, whether he was or was not an oligarch, I'll agree he wouldn't recognise these United States for what they've become........I *am*, however, 100% certain he would view the current state of the US as less evil than socialism.....

    on edit- we're already a few steps down the path to socialism, a path some in this country are determined to follow right to it's bitter, miserable end.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by 77ironhead View Post
    .I *am*, however, 100% certain he would view the current state of the US as less evil than socialism.....

    on edit- we're already a few steps down the path to socialism, a path some in this country are determined to follow right to it's bitter, miserable end.....
    You opened the door so I'll ask, "Do you mean those countries that have caught up to the USA and some even past you? Hmmm and the countries that are in the list of "Happiest countries in the world"? LOL

    I suggest you research the difference between socialism and communism.

    How socialist are Scandinavian countries? - Quora

    Nordic model - Wikipedia

    The Myth of Scandinavian Socialism - Foundation for Economic Education

    If you aren't colour blind I suggest you look at the map in this link.

    List of socialist states - Wikipedia

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    Quote Originally Posted by 77ironhead View Post
    soooo- you're saying he was what he warned about.....?

    aside from that, whether he was or was not an oligarch, I'll agree he wouldn't recognise these United States for what they've become........I *am*, however, 100% certain he would view the current state of the US as less evil than socialism.....

    on edit- we're already a few steps down the path to socialism, a path some in this country are determined to follow right to it's bitter, miserable end.....
    Just pointing out that quoting a wealthy slave owner that lived a life of leisure and eventually died deeply in debt might qequire a little background investigation.


    Stupid public education.

    What do you think ‘socialism’ is.
    Most people that wave that word around just mean to describe things they don’t like.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 77ironhead View Post
    jealous of what, pray tell? go ahead and google the percentage of Danes taking anti-depressants and compare it to the US, and get back to me.
    I checked so I'm getting back to you. Yeps, the USA has us beaten.

    anti.jpg

    The top countries for antidepressant use - Business Insider

    I'd better add that this is uncharted waters for me as I've never felt the need for any.

    Even after reading the next one it might surprise you that we probably have fewer alcoholics than you do.

    Danish teens still most boozy in Europe – The Post

    I guess if you want something to be popular then just forbid it. We have some very free laws here

    Denmark 11 - Drinking and University Culture - Ep. 16 - YouTube

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    Michigan Unemployment History
    Date National Unemployment Rate Michigan Unemployment Rate

    .................USA.....Michigan

    April 2018 3.9% ...—
    March 2018 4.1%... 4.7%
    February 2018 4.1%... 4.8%
    January 2018 4.1%... 4.7%

    Not great but not bad considering Michigan lost so many Auto related jobs..Guess people should go to where the jobs are

    Have to admit Denmark is making a good show of running the country...A commoner can still get rich there with smart thinking and hard work..
    Socialism locking lower class in the poor house does not seem to be the case there..
    http://www.financetwitter.com/2011/0...lionaires.html


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