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Thread: Manufacture and sell to China
04-21-2011, 11:13 AM #41
04-21-2011, 11:23 AM #42
04-21-2011, 03:42 PM #43
Some people I know that sell seafood into china, have family members there they use to wash the funds through.
04-21-2011, 03:49 PM #44
Solar, are you sure you're ok?
In your previous to the post above you claim I am "extremely hostile sometimes dude" and you state you want to "just skip some of my psycho posts."
I asked you to basically put up or shut up, and to this point you've done neither.
Back up your claims or go away.
Gordon is a big boy and he certainly doesn't need you playing white knight.
Let's see some proof of my hostile psycho insane rantings.
By the way.........to further emphasize my concern for your mental stability, here's what you wrote just last Tuesday 4/12/2011.
So what the hell is your problem?? Make up your mind..........
Extremely hostile, insanely, psychotically yours,
04-21-2011, 09:02 PM #45
They are all human too!
The Chinese people are some of the most capitalistic and competitive folks in the world, I’m amazed that communism has lasted so long (unless they have modified it, which they have).
The truth is they have problems and difficulties like everyone else.
In 2002 I was on a survey vessel mapping the seafloor for a fiber-optic cable between Hong Kong and the southern city in Taiwan. We were required to have officials from both states to observe the mapping process and data collection.
They would not be on the same vessel together. We had to split the survey in 2 because they wouldn’t play in the same sand box!
Yes they have a lot of issues to work out.
04-22-2011, 12:44 AM #46
04-25-2011, 03:10 PM #47
04-26-2011, 08:38 AM #48
04-26-2011, 08:43 AM #49
Not sure how this will be received but I was asked a few days ago what American thing I'd buy if there was a European equivelent. Couldn't think of a thing until I rolled out my grill from hibernation. It's a Weber and is definately the most sold name in Denmark for grills. Wouldn't dream of having any other make.
04-26-2011, 01:01 PM #50
It is about monetary policy please see: THE CHINA TRADE AND JOBS
China holds the line on imports by manipulating money so it can export more than it imports. So if you want to sell to China competitively you build a factory in China. If you build a factory in China you take on a Chinese partner in the enterprise.
04-26-2011, 02:06 PM #51
04-26-2011, 02:49 PM #52
Talk about the pot calling the kettle black!
You blab incessantly on this site...........in every thread.
May just be "you're" the guy on the other end of the phone!
So, while I got you on the line.........how's the weather over there?
Geez......hope your white knight doesn't have a mental breakdown over this........
04-26-2011, 03:57 PM #53
05-03-2011, 03:39 PM #54
The German economy is one of those doing best in Europe at present. Just read today that China has overtaken the US as Germany's largest export market.
05-04-2011, 11:22 AM #55
What has China got to do with Shop Management and Owner Issues? If you absolutely must expound your theories of macroeconomics based on a couple weeks' Potemkin Village experience, won't you please find a more appropriate forum? This one is for the discussion of things of immediate importance to shop owners, such as human resources issues and getting paid.
05-04-2011, 12:00 PM #56
We've had some customers come to use wanting equipment for a shop in china. When someone wanted a couple of our mainstay "made in america! same design since 1882! best in the world!" machines, we really thought about it but ultimatly desided to send them over. I personally don't like the general ethics of managment that sends work to an enviroment (or country) where quality isn't the biggest priority, but if they use our fancy-pants machine, good for em! It's a step in the right direction.
We were also a little concerned that they might cloan the machines but figured 1. the machine's been around long enough, they could have done it already 2. the market isn't big enough for them to care 3. the machine is of a nature that I seiously doubt it would function if made with poor tolerances and material.
05-05-2011, 12:56 PM #57
No country or company deliberately produces and sells bad quality. If the customer (importer or end user) isn't willing to pay the price that good quality costs then very few will turn down an order. They'll just make what they feel that the customer was paying for. Don't tell me that couldn't happen in ANY country in the world.
It stands to reason that a car costing $25,000 probably isn't going to be as good as one at $100,000. Both will get you from A to B and some are willing to pay more for that and others not.
I have my own saying: "If you're lucky you get what you pay for. You rarely get more".
Another one (not my own) is, "The disappointment over bad quality last much longer than the pleasure derived from a cheap offer".
05-05-2011, 07:13 PM #58
I didn't read many of the replies because it seems this is sinking into "manufacturing in america and europe" arguments..
Just wanted to mention a Chinese friend of mine revisited China recently and said much of this huge wealth is because of property value booms. all his generation (~40 yrs old) is richer there than he in the USA after 15yrs simply because of the property.
On the other hand, young Chinese seem to have a Gen-X syndrome going on. All the property values are so high now they can never hope to buy, and all they can do is work for these fortunate older crowd. lots of unemployment or low-rank jobs also for the recent grads.
As a USA gen-X-er myself, I can suppose that this type of thing can really cause things to be less clear in the future. how does a generation ever get its self out from under that shadow?
not a real fan here of what the baby boomers left & are still actively leaving us...
05-06-2011, 05:47 AM #59
OK, enough with the tit for tat retoric. I should write this as a PM but just in case others share your view I'll write it here.
In the Manufacturing in USA and Europe domain (which I agree with you is more appropriate) the moderator there deleted over 500 of my posts because we disagreed in 4 or 5. As those that read what I do write will know then it wasn't my using abusive or foul language. He furthermore stated that anything else I posted in his domain would immediately be deleted too. What annoyed me most was that after deleting my post he kept his own posts letting everyone know what he thought of me and what I had written. If he had deleted his own insults I'd have been able to disregard it easier. So much for freedom of speech. I received many emails from members who disagreed with the action of the moderator (half non Americans and half American). It might be interesting to note if the non American contributions have gone up or down in the last 3 months. I have no idea.
Anyway, being effectively banned from the appropriate domain rather limits my choice assuming of course that freedom of speech (OK writing ) still applies.
Your solution is simple if you find what I write uninteresting, either activate the neccesary "box" so you don't see any of my posts or just don't read what I write. It certainly doesn't have to become a problem that could possibly raise your blood pressure
I'll just add that although RJ and I don't always agree I find him both fair and open minded and certainly never as abusive or arrogant as another moderator who shall remain anonymous
05-06-2011, 05:55 AM #60