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    Thanks for all of the comments. I really like the form factor of the Transit, the ability to keep things dry in poor weather is very appealing and the carrying capacity more than meets my needs, but the comments regarding performance on wet ground/snowy pavement while not surprising are discouraging Whatever I buy will spend some time off road - mainly on grass or dirt laneways - and from the comments here, it sounds like with the Transit, I'll be repeating the experience I had with a 2WD F250 with an open diff from a few years ago. That truck could get itself stuck on a gravel driveway, not an experience I am looking to repeat.

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    Well, tires is a BIG deal....

    Years ago I bought an '82 GMC 1 ton dually 4wd truck.
    Just my luck - to sell it - the owner thought is a good idea to put new skins on it.
    They put some hardass Cooper street tires that had no business on any public hwy north of Brownsville.

    Even in 4wd the thing was a skateboard on snowy roads!
    But you know - when your not made of $ just yet (I keep waiting...) and you are in the mode of buying used trucks, to go out and fetch 6 new 16" tires can be a bit of an undertaking, so we ran'um off...

    Finally, one late fall day it was to the point that we could justify replacing those tires. A fresh set of BF Goodrich All Terrain's later and that truck was WAY more held to the ground in 2wd than it ever was in 4wd!

    I had been running these tires for years already, but even I was amazed at the difference!


    Now go look at what is on most vee-hickles today...
    I don't know about y'all, but when I was a kid, we always had snow tarrs for the cars.
    Folks don't doo that anymore. Well, most folks anyhow. I like to have two sets of rims and tarrs for my truck, but I have yet to find a spare set of 17" wheels.

    So, I don't know what fer tarrs your F250, nor this little bee-bopper has on it, but I bet it doesn't say Gateway -Gumbo Monster Mudder on them. If you break down and put "traction" tarrs on a Kia, it's gunna make a difference.

    It's not the F250's fault so much, but a limited slip could have helped, but that would git most folks in trouble on snowy roads too, so Detroit hast'a play it safe.


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    Unfortunately, it looks like Ford haven't given you the front wheel drive versions (may be available if you go on holiday to Mexico ). Don't be too put off by the comments about no-load handling in slippery conditions, it applies to all rear wheel drive vans in that sort of format due to the weight balance and drive location. Just put a few sacks of sand/toolboxes etc. in the back if driving in ice with an otherwise empty van.

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    I agree with what Mark says above. Here we have 3 - 4 snows a year that last 2 - 3 days. Not reasonable to buy snow tires, most run all weather tires year round. I have owned a 2 WD pick up and a series of full size Dodge 1/2 and 3/4 ton vans. Empty they all rode like crap and would not move on wet grass. With 4 - 500 pounds in the back corners they would climb a tree. Bags of sand, a couple of dead washing machines, concrete blocks, half a load of fire wood, have been used.

    Some people who ride empty or carry light stuff buy a hunk of 1/2 inch steel plate and bolt it down in the back of a van.

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    I am lusting after a T250 as my new moto van... really wish they would bring the 4x4 version to the USA.

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    Point being - those same tires work well in the wet grass / mud as well.

    All Terrain tires may look a bit goofy on a minivan, but only b/c the rest of the folks are skating away.


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    Oxman, I am a believer and worshipper of them tires bud.
    My 2wd gmc rite now is wearing them,4wd is for girls, 2wd bilt merica.
    Gw

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    Continental DWS-06 tires are a great all-season tire if you want more of a "car" tire. My wife & I have used them on our girly cars for years now, and a non-worn out set is great in snow... I don't know if they have the appropriate sizes for "vans" but they'd be a good choice if so...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ox View Post
    Well, tires is a BIG deal....


    So, I don't know what fer tarrs your F250, nor this little bee-bopper has on it, but I bet it doesn't say Gateway -Gumbo Monster Mudder on them. If you break down and put "traction" tarrs on a Kia, it's gunna make a difference.

    It's not the F250's fault so much, but a limited slip could have helped, but that would git most folks in trouble on snowy roads too, so Detroit hast'a play it safe.


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    You're right, a limited slip diff would have helped and the truck I had before the aforementioned F250, had one. With street tires the GMC p/u was able to go pretty much anywhere on the farm. The F250 with all terrain tires and several hundred pounds in the bed often got stuck, especially on slopes in the orchard. My biggest problem with it, was sometimes I needed it empty to get to where I was going to load it and I'd get stuck on the way. With the van, I could bolt in a steel plate for the winter, but still, I'd prefer a vehicle that was less likely to get itself stuck.

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    If'n you think that's bad....I bought a cmc 3500 HD
    Has those 19.5's on there.

    2wd, don't get it near wet grass.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by digger doug View Post
    If'n you think that's bad....I bought a cmc 3500 HD
    Has those 19.5's on there.

    2wd, don't get it near wet grass.....
    90-120 psi in them doesn't help either

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    Quote Originally Posted by kustomizingkid View Post
    90-120 psi in them doesn't help either
    Shoot....I had them down to 40 psi.

    No traction, and rough as a cob on the freeway.

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    No sidewall = no flex.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Ox View Post
    No sidewall = no flex.



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    You'd think they would flex plenty, with my fat arse in the cab....

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    Have you ever mounted a set? There aint much flex in them period.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kustomizingkid View Post
    Have you ever mounted a set? There aint much flex in them period.
    Not yet, this is my first (and maybe my last truck with them)

    Aint much flex, as they saved money on sidewalls.

    How do the people in the hood drive those "vehicles" with the aftermarket rims, the wheels
    look like they have no room for air.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ox View Post
    I don't know about y'all, but when I was a kid, we always had snow tarrs for the cars.
    Yup, remember mounting the "Firestone Town & Country" snow tires
    in October....

    They looked like a buzz saw, and sounded like four of them too.

    So you thought "They are loud and lumpy, but man will I go
    great this winter".

    And they were great.....and in May, you couldn't wait to take them
    off, and cursed how loud & lump they were.

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    Well you could'a prolly took the chains off by early March.
    That should have helped ....


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ox View Post
    Well you could'a prolly took the chains off by early March.
    That should have helped ....


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    Only the state cops run chains....everyone else runs studs (at least people who believe they actually doo something)

    Oh, and the Oshkosh in Mckean township, and the one out in Rockdale township....
    They run chains.

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    Sorry to the OP this is OT
    15 years ago out here, Snow tires were not a big thing. We don't get much snow here but get some ice. So a lot of cars just used studded tires but a few just use cheap cables when needed. I had to make a trip to pick on an eBay buy to MN mid-Winter and was shocked studs where illegal and nobody used chains. This was dead of winter 4 feet of snow on the ground in MN when I went. This is when I learned about Blizak type tires. Wow, I will never run studded tires again. On most winter road conditions they work far better than any studded tires I have ever used. Even on Ice a stand on the brakes pretty hard and they will hold. I wish they would outlaw studs here as well as they really tear up the roads the 4 months there allowed to be on. All that time for maybe 4 snow days a year. LOL


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