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Milacron · #1 07-19-2008, 07:48 PM

Any of you "doing it" and if so with what software ?

sneebot · #2 07-19-2008, 09:04 PM

Solidworks for modeling, and Mastercam for toolpaths. Download from Mastercam to control. Haven't needed to DNC yet, but this week I'm going to have to figure it out for something I'm working on.

sneebot · #3 07-19-2008, 09:42 PM

Not sure about your 400 but the 600E you just bought won't support DNC as far as I know. Needs a newer SW revision-- has 65XX I think (if it had 66xx SW I would have bought it...)
This probably is not an issue unless you plan to do surfacing of some sort.

Milacron · #4 07-19-2008, 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by sneebot

Not sure about your 400 but the 600E you just bought won't support DNC as far as I know. Needs a newer SW revision-- has 65XX I think (if it had 66xx SW I would have bought it...)
This probably is not an issue unless you plan to do surfacing of some sort.

600e is 1988 vintage..when did 66xx come out... 1989 ?

Also are you going by the serial number of the machine or info from the control itself ?

sneebot · #5 07-19-2008, 11:08 PM

Not sure about dates on SW revs. Going on information that comes up on the boot-up screen (I asked specifically about it on the 600E). You'll still be able download programs, just not drip feed it. Although some of 65XX levels may have been able to DNC, according to Karl it was a little buggy.

Milacron · #6 07-20-2008, 11:32 AM

Hmmm...so that's what MahoDoc's $2,500 "upgrade" board is all about I guess. http://cgi.ebay.com/Maho-Milling-Mac...2em118Q2el1247

I wonder how do I tell if I have 432-10 or 432-9 ?

The interesting thing about my MH600e is supposely the entire Phillips module assembly was replaced just a few year ago, in which case it should have the lastest software possible... but then maybe the "new" box was really an NOS box from 1988...or maybe they were FOS about that...

sneebot · #7 07-20-2008, 01:41 PM

The 600E is a 432-10. The 432-10 has the five function keys at the top of the console. Yes that's what the upgrade is all about. It may upgrade the processor as well as the 600E may have a 10Mhz vs. the 12Mhz needed for the higher SW level. The SW revisions go up to at least 7XXX level and I think for the 7XXX level one needs a 14Mhz processor. I believe Karl's package is a 12Mhz and SW 6603-XXX.

Milacron · #8 07-20-2008, 01:47 PM

Sooooo, why don't you buy Karl's board ? Too much $$$ ?

sneebot · #9 07-20-2008, 08:07 PM

The machine I've got already has 67xx Sw level.

Milacron · #10 07-21-2008, 01:56 AM

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The machine I've got already has 67xx Sw level

Ooooooh....well now, aren't we Mr. Big Shot...67 level !

Tonight I looked at my software numbers-

MH600e = 6534.504

MH400e = 6601.603 (i.e. the same as Karl's upgrade board)

The curious part is the 400e is two years older than the 600e. I wonder if it would be a simple matter of swapping modules if I wanted to upgrade the 600e and downgrade the 400e ?

I also wonder if the upgrade is really just new EPROMs such that I could copy the hex files from the EPROMs on my 400e board and insert them on my 600e board ?

sneebot · #11 07-21-2008, 09:12 AM

Not sure exactly what's involved so I'm no help there- be curious to here the details if you are able to do what you are suggesting though.

richardcncuser · #12 09-10-2008, 06:57 PM

Could anyone say which philips this could be?
I was told it was a 3360 300 but the controll
panel looks quite new and has 5 function keys
at the top. Could this be a 432/10?
Thanks

http://www.marktplaats.nl/index.php?...mg%3D3%23photo

Milacron · #13 09-10-2008, 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by richardcncuser

Could anyone say which philips this could be?
I was told it was a 3360 300 but the controll
panel looks quite new and has 5 function keys
at the top. Could this be a 432/10?

Surprised by your "quite new" comment as it looks like the panel on all my Maho CNC mills...from 1987 to 1990 vintage. Antique monochrome monitor kinda unusual on that one..usually even back to early 1980's they had color monitors...but could be ordered either way I think.

GeneralG · #14 10-29-2008, 01:59 AM

Are the 600 series (with the Phillips 432 most common it seems) capable of being hooked right to a PC with Solidworks and Mastercam, so I could just design parts on there and send them direct to the machine to cut? I really have no desire to program at-machine, especially as most of my work involves compound curves, hill/valley stuff, basically I don't want to be sitting at some 1980's monochrome screen for 100 hours programming a part I will only run maybe 20 of, if that.

I appreciate that you all here are master wiz types at programming and such black arts, but I really don't have the time or desire to learn stuff like that, I need to take full advantage of technology available right now. I'm an all-manual guy until now, I love running manuals, but the time savings of CNC is just too astronomical to ignore any more, even considering all my stuff is small batches or one-offs. I can design stuff pretty easily with Solidworks (who can't) , and if I could have a CNC to sort of plug-n-play, well that would sure be nice.

Reason I choose Maho is because they are sturdy and proven.

sneebot · #15 10-29-2008, 10:25 AM

Compatibility is software specific, older machines may have been upgraded, so it is necessary to check SW rev. To work in the way you describe I would suggest a SW level of 6601.603 or higher.

Grusse · #16 10-18-2009, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Milacron

Ooooooh....well now, aren't we Mr. Big Shot...67 level !

Tonight I looked at my software numbers-

MH600e = 6534.504

MH400e = 6601.603 (i.e. the same as Karl's upgrade board)

The curious part is the 400e is two years older than the 600e. I wonder if it would be a simple matter of swapping modules if I wanted to upgrade the 600e and downgrade the 400e ?

I also wonder if the upgrade is really just new EPROMs such that I could copy the hex files from the EPROMs on my 400e board and insert them on my 600e board ?

Hi, i just wonder if you have some new information about the upgrade of the machine? I have two Maho with CNC 432, and one is a 4-axis 700C -84 and one 3-axis 600E -87. I run the 600E with drip feed, so i wonder if i could upgrade the 700C so i could run drip feed on this one to?

smoregrava · #17 11-01-2009, 02:07 AM

I use Edgecam and transfere files to my Maho mh500c with Hyperterminal. works nice but no drip feed unfortunally. My controll is to old for that I belive.

The postprocessor for edgecam I have made myself can be downloaded from my maho site

http://smoregrava.net/Maho/mahomh500.htm

Grusse · #18 11-02-2009, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by smoregrava

I use Edgecam and transfere files to my Maho mh500c with Hyperterminal. works nice but no drip feed unfortunally. My controll is to old for that I belive.

The postprocessor for edgecam I have made myself can be downloaded from my maho site

http://smoregrava.net/Maho/mahomh500.htm

Why don´t you use EdgeCAM to transfer files to your Maho, that works really nice! When you have run the code generator in edgecam, then you go to "file" "Send to" "Maho 500C" and that´s it.

smoregrava · #19 11-02-2009, 03:13 PM

Yeah why not. I didn't know it was possible. But I have to try that.

Grusse · #20 11-02-2009, 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by smoregrava

Yeah why not. I didn't know it was possible. But I have to try that.

Before you can do this you have to set the RS232 parameters in the "edgecomm" file. You find it in the Edgecam/CAM folder. Then enjoy it