Home Page Forums Blog Articles Videos Search Register Advertise






Go Back   Practical Machinist - Largest Manufacturing Technology Forum on the Web > Manufacturing Today > General New

General New General metalworking, machine tool, and woodworking machinery discussions

 
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Prev Previous Post   Next Post Next
  #11  
Old 11-03-2009, 07:07 PM
JST's Avatar
JST JST is offline
Diamond
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: St Louis
Posts: 8,130
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by The real Leigh View Post

Not sure what "physical law" is being violated here, since the GFCI is just measuring current at two points in a series circuit.

- Leigh
The one about capacitors passing AC.......... So many things have significant capacitive leakage, which is to some extent "normal"...... so the GFCIs have to be desensitized to where they actually only "sort of" act as people protection for 120V circuits, or 230V overseas.

The GFCI will pass a lot more unbalanced current than it really takes to kill you. It's basically playing the odds, protecting some, and, yes, failing to protect others. Whoever it saves is happy, and the others were dead without it anyway.

The principle is fine, theory says it works, and it DOES work. But it can't be made to work as well as it ought to because of the physical laws that present problems.

With balanced current such as the heaters are probably getting, the capacitive leakage from one 120V half should be balanced by similar leakage from the other. Leakage would act like load current, and if reasonably equal, will be rejected.

The fact that there is STILL tripping of the GFCI suggests that there is either am unbalanced heaters issue, or a genuine problem.

if, for instance, the heater setup varies the number of heaters, and their connection, for different settings, that might cause it. If that adjustment is not balanced, one setting may pop the GFCI due to unequal leakages.

if, for another instance, one heater element in a series/parallel setup is not working, the effective capacitance may be changed, and the formerly balanced leakage is now unbalanced, again potentially popping the GFCI.
Reply With Quote
 

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:06 AM.
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.2
Copyright ©2000 - 2009, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Forum SEO by Zoints
Ad Management plugin by RedTyger