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11-02-2009, 05:15 PM
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Plastic
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Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: western washington
Posts: 17
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I have a Lewis and a Barker.
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11-02-2009, 07:39 PM
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Plastic
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Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Western PA
Posts: 36
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Brodhead Garrett 8" with vise. 1960's ???? Not sure of the date.
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11-02-2009, 08:22 PM
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Aluminum
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Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Hot Springs Arkansas
Posts: 60
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Okay if I counted right thats 197 shapers and planers so far.I tried to make sure I left out the ones people said they sold.Keep posting I know there is more
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11-03-2009, 12:27 AM
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Plastic
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Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Detroit 'burbs
Posts: 35
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Ok, ok, I have another: a 7" Franken-AMMCO which I'm retrofitting with a long universal table. Early mockup pic shows the ram fully extended with lots of space left over for the indexing head. The box-section table will have a lower cutout for the forward support leg, which will fall about mid-point of the table in this pic.
BTW, does anyone have a donor AMMCO cross slide casting they will let go of? I'm looking forward to an "it's alive" moment some thime this winter.
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11-03-2009, 04:08 AM
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Diamond
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Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Vicksburg, MS
Posts: 4,103
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G&E 20" here, used it just the other day. Also wins the prize from shop visitors for the most "what is that?" questions.
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11-03-2009, 06:07 PM
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Aluminum
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Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: tn
Posts: 119
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Quote:
Originally Posted by scatter cat
Okay if I counted right thats 197 shapers and planers so far.I tried to make sure I left out the ones people said they sold.Keep posting I know there is more 
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I lost count but , was close to what you came up with if I added the 23 shapers that I have. With the 2 others that were just posted after your post, my count is 202 shapers. Is that right? , anybody Shaperhaven
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11-03-2009, 06:12 PM
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Diamond
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Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Birmingham, AL
Posts: 5,039
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Not seeing JL Sargent on this list. I know he has at least two, a BIG old Ohio and a Vernon/Sheldon.
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11-03-2009, 07:21 PM
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Hot Rolled
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Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Benson, Vermont
Posts: 713
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I don't see JBishop on this list yet either, but when I bought my SB shaper from him he had a bigger one in the shop. I don't remember what kind it was, but it looked pretty beefy, and had an impressive collection of OK or Muskegon insert tool holders.
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11-04-2009, 12:14 PM
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Titanium
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Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: downhill from Twain\'s study outside Elmira, NY
Posts: 3,754
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In addition to my Rockford shaper mentioned earlier, I took ownership of a 24" x 24" x 6' Whitcomb Blaisdell high speed planer over the weekend, but it's not in my posession yet. Kind of champing at the bit 'til we get it here.
smt
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11-04-2009, 08:57 PM
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Titanium
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Roseville, CA
Posts: 3,564
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Add a Hendey 15" shaper to your list, circa 1905. Not exactly running, but it's all there. Just as an aside, the machine shop in San Francisco that it came out of was the original purchaser.
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11-05-2009, 05:02 AM
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Plastic
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Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Manitoba, Canada
Posts: 5
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Shapers
I have a 7 inch AAMCO I bought for $100 about 5 years ago.....and just bought an early South Bend 7 inch shaper that cost me $500....early model with oil cups and no oil pump.
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11-05-2009, 06:45 AM
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Plastic
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Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Chambersburg, PA
Posts: 33
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I just picked up a Gould & Eberhardt 16" Universal shaper that appears to be in pretty good shape for $100.
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11-05-2009, 08:20 PM
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Plastic
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Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Hampshire, England
Posts: 12
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I have an Alba 1A, which is a British machine, of 10" stroke, the forerunner of the Elliott 10M. The table can be swivelled against the saddle, but doesn't have a tilting top. This machine has the integral motor drive and a support under the table, which dates it somewhere between about 1940 and 1960. Earlier machines had no table support and some of them at least were designed to be run off a line-shaft.
The Alba 1A is quite sturdy for its size - it weighs about 1000 lbs - but doesn't have too many refinements. There's no lock on the tool-slide, for example, and no micrometer collars on the crossfeed shaft or table-raising shaft, although there is a collar on the tool-slide. The tool-slide only has quite a short travel: 2½". These points were remedied on the Elliott 10M, and the tool-slide travel was increased to 3½". The top speed was increased from 100 to 122 strokes per minute.
The other point about the Alba 1A is that it was fitted with a 6-pole motor which ran at 960 rpm (in the UK). These are tricky to obtain nowadays if you ever need to replace one.
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11-05-2009, 09:51 PM
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Aluminum
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Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Mem. TN
Posts: 218
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My shaper
24 inch Standard duty with swivel table and original vise. Came with lots of tooling.
I got it from Jackalope here on PM.
http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/g...373/new001.jpg
JB
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11-06-2009, 10:59 AM
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Aluminum
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Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Eudora Arkansas
Posts: 116
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Don't have it running yet but have this one.
tommie
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11-07-2009, 03:46 AM
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Cast Iron
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Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Germany
Posts: 332
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I own two.
By the way, does any of you guys have the drawings for the lewis shaper vise? i would love to built one but have no measures for the patterns. Or is one of you guys willing to wield the calipher? I would sketch up what I know and what I still miss...
Cheers,
Johann
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11-07-2009, 04:17 AM
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Plastic
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Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Australia Melbourne
Posts: 6
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Shapers
Greetings chaps I have a shaper an unmarked beast about 14 inch stroke. Mine lay in a friends workshop which is his living so it was too slow and it lay unused for eight years. I got it for 250 Ossie dollars. It now resides in a ex Railways Workshop with an Asquith Radial, Parkson 1A Mill, and a New Visby Lathe. This is a locally made beast with a top speed of 2000 revs and 3 inch bore. and about 4 foot between centers. I also share the available space with two Broad Gauge locomotives. So there is usually plenty of work
Yours from down under
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11-07-2009, 12:20 PM
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Hot Rolled
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Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Calgary, Alberta, Canada
Posts: 837
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I have a 14" Elliot 14M, with power downfeed, original vise and wrenches, factory owners manual including the warranty card! I wonder if I should mail it in now?
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11-07-2009, 01:09 PM
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Hot Rolled
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Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Rural Maryland near Gettysburg, PA
Posts: 963
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Better late than never . . .
Two South Bend 7" Plain shapers -- I have one in operation and another which is a parts machine. I intend to upgrade older complete one to internal lubrication by putting all the best parts into one shaper. I have thoughts of converting the extra knee to be universal.
Hendey 12" High-speed Toolroom universal shaper. I use it more often than any other machine in my shop.
Federal 10x10x30 planer, made from 1902 to 1916. Waiting its turn for restoration.
The shapers are all around my age -- old enough, but post-WWII.
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