Christmas Present for a Home Machinist....
Do you own a South Bend Lathe? Are you afraid to post on this forum?
Are you tired of being ridiculed when you ask a question by the so-called PROFESSIONAL machinists?
If you want a board for HOBBY machinists, try:
The Hobby-Machinist - Index
EVERYONE is welcome there, and www.hobby-machinist.com is the place where you CAN ask a question like that and NOT get treated like you are crap. That is why it was started, as a haven for those who aren't pros and still want to ask questions, learn, and have fun, without the fear of posting and being slapped down, made fun of, or banned.
Ya'all are welcome. Remember:
But Nelsen isn't it your lot in life to be a total dick to anyone who crosses your path?
from what I understand, most of the South Bend users in this forum are hobby machinists. Some of these hobby machinist are also professional machinist. A mixture of professional and hobby machinist is what makes this form great. We can get information from people who have used the machine as well as people who are professional machinist , mechanics and engineers. Yes there are a few that might ridicule and laugh at someone who does not know the answer to a question but these people can easily be ignored. I have been a member of forms that only wanted hobbyist and I did not like it. much of the information was incorrect and some of it was downright silly.
also: as a member of this form we also have access to other forms in the practical machinist groups such as, Robotics, VFD and CNC just to name a few.
I have found this to be the best place to find the information that I need.
PS: I have also found this group to be extremely well moderated. moderately tolerant of off topic questions but it's extremely intolerant when it is necessary. the moderators have used extremely good judgment in these matters. in other groups it is either, say what you want do what you want it doesn't matter or a communistic approach, if you say the wrong thing you may wind up in Siberia.
I will stay with this group.
This is the most welcoming and friendly forum I have particapated in to date.
A few words before Don shuts down your latest user account (up to #16 now, by my count -- impressive!)...
For the record, I see this as one of the most novice-friendly forums on Practical Machinist. I've been told time and again by SB Forum members that this is the main reason they like visiting here. No one is derided for lacking experience or ability. I do get impatient when people refuse to do their own checking and investigating before asking a question, but I've learned to be tolerant on this. We are not even exclusively restricted to South Bend. There have been inquiries on this forum about Logan, Myford, Clausing, Atlas, and others (Though the discussion of Atlas has now been prohibited on PM.)
Make no mistake though, I will delete posts that I see as rude, offensive, or otherwise inappropriate without a second thought. I'm not a great believer in thread locking, for this just enshrines the offensive behavior. Sorry, but that is the way I see it. By the way, Nelson, in one of our first run-ins, you told me that I had "no right" to delete your post. I notice that this is one of the many police actions you reserve to yourself on your new "forum":
New Members and Guests--PLEASE READ THIS!
Nelson, you seem like a nice enough person, you just have this quirk with how you respond to criticism or rejection. I was patient with you up to a point, but you exceeded that point long ago. Go play in your own yard now.
PS: You misspelled your URL in the link above. Not very effective for hijacking new members.
I have had two PM messages, asking me to join this group and I wish to state publicly that I have no intention of joining his group at this time. I do not think it is appropriate for any member to try to hijack other members away from this or any group. It is one thing to post a link to a new group in a public manner, it is quite another to send them private messages asking them to leave a group and joined their.
and if you are reading this, do not send me anymore PMs.
oh and by the way, if this gets me banned from his group when I'm not a member, so be it. It would just prove what I have heard about him is true.
It would be interesting
to hear what title Al Swaringen would have bestowed on thei character, eh?
treatment of newbies
Just read the above postings especially the one by nelson, no matter what the subject matter or board there will always be those who are intolerant of an unexperienced person (possible ego issue) I straddle both sides of the fence both hobbyist as well a some job related most of my experience came out of the alaskan fishing fleet . When the chief needed a part ,if you told you never made one lioke that his reply was- after you make this you will know how! so it has been all hard knocks learning which means also learning all the bad habits as well . I find this board to be a good source of info ,and have never felt belittled by a reply share the wealth guys (gals) and it will serve to keep up the interest.
I concur 100%
Originally Posted by promacjoe
Only felt belittled once for misspelling a word. At first I took it a little personnal, but in reviewing many of the post spelling is obviosly not a requirement. That person could spell but I don't think he knew what he was talking about. So like others I also will continue with PM and gather as much information as I can absorb, which is probably not very much. I have a lot of senior moments.
If everything worked smoothly, it would be nice but very boring. As they say, "variety is the spice of life!". I love this forum, including people like Nelsen.
This is just too funny.
As if the internet were like some little town where the bars have feuds and if you go to the wrong one you get @#$% kicked.
Go everywhere there is, read everything you want, ask everything you need answers too, and learn everything you can.
If someone gives you a hard time either ignore them or not, but it is not like they can pour a beer on you and hit you with the bottle!
Ridicule, laughed at, talked to like you were crap? Seriously???
Personally I have not witnessed such behavior here on this forum, towards newbies or otherwise. Damn.... nelson, get your head straight man!
This forum's ace,no two ways about it.I've never see so much specific information freely given.
Keep up the good work
I realize that my time with PM is just recently begun; my opinions may not have much bearing on this discussion. From the moment I discovered this great site Paula has been patient and very helpful answering my questions just like everyone else. I have visited the hobby machining website and I think they are putting something together that will have the potential to also be a great site although it's still in it's infancy. At this time I am engrossed with my new Heavy 10. I know the best advise I can get is right here. There are other projects that I dabble in from time to time that may be better suited by other sites. I try to contribute my personal experiences as a professional maintenance machinist where I can and when asked. Working with vintage machinery gives me a better perspective and genuine appreciation for CNC machinery. I work with a young man that recently graduated from a community college that mostly focused on modern CNC equipment and he has almost no experience with intricate set-ups or figuring out problems using simple math. Although he is a brilliant machinist, the lack of using common techniques and routines that were necessary in the past are lost with him. He doesn't like to admit it but I have noticed that he copies a few things I do. Working together has benefited him in a positive way. I hope that someday Nelson and Paula have this bond since we are all sharing and working in this community.