If i had the extra money i would but it for all those reasons...Bob
Bob Wright Metal Master Fab
Salem, Ohio Birthplace of the Silver and Deming Drill, all others are copies.
lets not forget the add says FREE SHIPPING, that amount could be worth ALOT, depending on the buyers location.
We sell nice repainted and gone through ones for 3000 I am betting that someone out there is frothing at the mouth for this one and will go to 6800 or better this person will lose all self controll and go for it at all cost. They probably havent slept a wink since this thing came up and are sitting glued to the computer plotting and scheming how to beat out all the other crazy southbend nuts for this once in a lifetime chance to own a nice southbend. God help us
expensive hobby machine
Nice machine but that is more than I paid for my whole workshop and my car!
Too expensive for a hobby lathe and not what I would buy for making money. You could buy the DSG 13" AND the pultra instrument lathe I saw on ebay last week and still have $5000 change to buy yourself a handy mill! I know which deal I would take.
Its our auction thats on there.
The 10 hours was an estimate from the original owner, when he bought it, he did one project on it, which he said had taken him about 10 hours over the years here or there on the lathe, and that was it. It sat there in the basement after that, oiled up, and not used. If you look at the condition in person, and know anything about machine tools, you can tell this is pretty accurate in the hours used. He owned 3 cutting tools, these were the only tools he said that were ever used on the machine. Of course it does not have an hour meter on it, but he said that was a good estimate, and there is nothing to show anything different.
Usually when someone tells me 10 hours they really mean 500, but in this case, it has to be the absolute truth, could be 5, could be 15, but somewhere in that range, its a very good estimate.
There is no measurable, or viewable wear on anything. The chucks do not have any marks on them, they look brand new.
I know one thing, this machine is VERY sensitive to leveling the bed, it took us a little time to get it all set up right so that we could take the cut on it, I must have put 2 hours into setting it up and dialing it in to level. Without being level it was cutting about a .002 taper in that distance. But level, its much better than that!
Originally it only had a Rocker Style toolpost on it and thats it, we put the quick change toolpost on it. Thats the only thing that we did other than the test cuts in the video.
Its one of those things that if you are looking for a south bend 10K and have the money to spend, this is it. It doesn't get any nicer than this one.
Per the price sheet in the book this machine listed in 1985 at:
Thread Dial $44.00
Taper Attachment $345.00
This does not include any chucks, or anything else that comes with this machine. I don't have the price list for those other things, I'd guess another $500 or so. The 3 jaw is not a South Bend, the 4 Jaw chuck and drive plate is a South Bend.
In today's Dollars by an inflation calculator (if it was available and the same price)
Thread Dial $88.00
Taper Attachment $693.00
So the price would have about doubled with inflation since 1985.
Its one of those things where if you bought it to use, you would almost be afraid to use it because its in such nice shape, but then again it is a machine tool, and unless its in a museum or something, whats the point of not using it?
If anyone is a South Bend Lathe lover, its the machine to get. If you are not sure and are just on the market for a lathe around this size, it may not be the best choice of a machine for you.
And to the scraping marks, you can't scrape a hardened bed. Well you probably could, but it would take a year.
Hardened Beds are Hardened and Ground, not scraped. The underside of the carriage is then scraped to fit the bed, and this is the proper way.
I had one of these, the same year and long bed with taper. Mine was the standard taper attachment, this one appears to possibly have a telescoping taper?
If it is a telescoping taper attachment, $5900.00 is my guess.
Yeah, that inflation thing is sometimes quoted as justification for the high selling price for these old machines, but I think that is a little misleading. Just because average selling prices go up, doesn't mean all prices go up. If someone were to build an identical machine today - open gears, plain bearings, belt drive etc. - could they really sell them for $7500? It's nice to see interest in these machines and entertaining to watch a few guys with deep pockets spend their money but except for an inch of swing and a taper attachment I don't see how that machine is that much better than the sweet little Model A I bought for $800.00 last year. And I made the sellers price go down, not up. Ha!
I bet it is about topped out now at 4000 with about 3 days left.
Granted the pristine appearance will bring its higher selling price. That lathe is no better than any other 10K that has been properly restored and/or repaired, but at much less cost. And at the end of the day it is still just a lathe. A machine of that age with many hours of use can perform as good as the listed machine if it was properly cared for.
If any looking for new 10K with tooling this is the one to buy
Back in 1983 it cost me $3800.00 with Inflation Calculator the cost is $8,247.72with the Taper Attachment add for the Taper Attachment that cost $126 in 1972 $656.81
The grand total is $8,904.53
See Inflation Calculator http://data.bls.gov/cgi-bin/cpicalc.pl
I will put the bid at $7,500.00
Less than a full day and it is still at 4000 dollars. I guess we will have to see what happends in the last few minutes.
4 and half hours left and its gone up to $4700, this should get interesting...
2 and half hours left and its gone up to $5,477.17
I still don't understand, it serves no purpose to bid early, there a virgin and a guy with only 5 but the other 2 guys in the mix have over a hundred.
A bidding war only benefits the seller.
I've seen really nice machines go for under $3000 they weren't as pretty as this one but with the extra $2000 you can buy a lot of paint.
Originally Posted by SmithSolar
We have a winner!
Tell him what he's won Bob.........
BEAUTIFUL SOUTH BEND 10K METAL LATHE MINT CONDITION!!!
Winning bid: US $7,400.00
Well actually it looks like qualitymachinetools ($7481) has won the game with smithsolar (7500) in second place. Congratrulations gentelmen you have won the Price is Right Practical Machinist edition!
Your prize.... absolutly nothing.
I am even amazed at the sale price of that lathe. Talk about a recession proof investment....
You'll notice that the eventually winner only bid once.
That is amazing I figured 6800 max but 7400 holy cow you can get some real nice iron for that kinda cash. not that it is not worth it but you could get a monarch a leblond ,an american need I go on.
No kpotter, not at all. That was exactly what was thinking. You can put a whole machien shop together for that kinda scratch. Well as long as you don't want a "like new" south bend. Damn I should quit using my 9" it could be hurting the resale value.
Stupidity bordering on insanity, but that's just my opinion,........ which ain't worth any more than you paid for it.
Here's hoping the seller gets his payment and the deal goes through without a hitch.
P.S. The market's up and Christmas is coming, I'm off to drag another out of stock