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    Bob,
    If you are still active and reading, please post photos of this lathe.
    This is probably a Sears branded Expert lathe, if there is not a preceding J or S stamped before
    the serial number.
    yes, Gears can be made.

    Steve




    Quote Originally Posted by bobvines View Post
    My South Bend lathe is S/N 1054.

    Back in 2002, I contacted Rose Marvin asking for any available information about it. She said "The lathe is a 10" that shipped on 10-29-1930. Most lathes around that serial number shipped in 1911, so yours must have sat somewhere for a long time. No parts or manuals are available. If you look for gears keep in mind that they have changed so much over the years and most that are made now will not fit a lathe as old as yours. Please let me know if you need any other information."

    I responded asking, "Does that mean that this lathe was built in about 1911, but shipped to a customer in 1930? Is a copy of a Serial Number card available?" and Rose responded with "Yes, that is what it means. I suppose it must have stayed in South Bend Lathe stock for that long. There is no serial card just a line in an old ledger book."


    Later, in 2007, I asked for similar information while DeWitt Engle was working there, and he replied,

    "Following is the information you requested:

    1. Serial Number: 1054
    2. Catalog Number: 26
    3. Size: 10"X54"
    4. Ship Date: October 29, 1930
    5. Dealer/Distributor: Sears, Roebuck & Co.
    6. Original customer was located in Michigan.

    Due to the age/vintage, neither parts nor documentation are available."

    I replied to DeWitt with the following question:

    "Thank you for your quick response. Is this lathe a "light 10" or a "heavy 10" or does it predate them?

    The Serial Number page at South Bend Lathe Co., implies that Serial Number 1054 is the 354th lathe produced by South Bend. Is this correct? I guess the lathe sat around for nearly 20 years before shipping?"

    DeWitt's response was, "It predates the Light and Heavy 10."


    Earlier this week I asked their "Customer Service" four questions (after including the above information):

    1. Does the Serial Number 1054 mean that my lathe actually was the 354th lathe built by South Bend Lathe?

    2. Or that my lathe was the 354th lathe built **AFTER** South Bend Lathe _started_ stamping Serial Numbers on its lathes, starting with 700 in July 1910?

    3. A follow-up to Rose's response where she said "If you look for gears keep in mind that they have changed so much over the years and most that are made now will not fit a lathe as old as yours":

    Can you tell me what tooth form was used back then on South Bend lathes or give me any other gear related information that I can use (after digging through my Mechanical Engineering textbooks and/or the Boston Gear catalog [if _they're_ still in business}) to find sufficient information to make or purchase gear tooth cutters to manufacture my own replacement change gears?

    4. Is a copy of Catalog 26 available in any form?


    These four questions were answered by Richard S. at "South Bend Lathe Company" (owned by Grizzly now, I think?) who responded with:

    "We appreciate your patronage with South Bend Lathe and are glad you turned to us for your parts needs. There are no parts, operational or service manuals available. Parts are no longer being manufactured. Parts are very limited and there is a good possibility that the parts needed are no longer available. We are unable to offer any technical assistance for the older South Bend lathes. We would suggest you visit the forums on Rapid Parts Engineering - Cnc Parts Canada, Precision Parts, Electronic Components for answers to your technical questions. We have no technical data on any South Bend parts due to them no longer being produced. As far as the what position your lathe was produced that information is not available."


    The <www.practicalmachinists.com> site redirects to the Canadian "Rapid Parts Engineering" site. It took me a while to realize that they have one extra letter after "practicalmachinist" in this site's name and that's why I couldn't get past the Rapid Parts Engineering site until this morning. I'll have to let Richard at "South Bend Lathe Company" that he's giving out the wrong site information.


    Can anyone answer _any_ of my four above questions? I'm most interested in the possible changes in gear tooth forms since what South Bend used back then, because I'll need to make the many missing change gears myself.


    Thanks,

    Bob

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    Ser # 79183
    Model # 415 YA
    Shipped 10/29/1937
    Sold to John B Ericsson of Stamford Conn.
    Dealer A C Bisgood of Bridgeport Conn.

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    Any pictures of your progress getting this running?

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    Just acquired
    SN # 28360NAR9
    Model A
    Cat no. CL 644 Z
    Bed length 3 1/2

    I would like to know what I have before I start rebuilding it.
    It was literally found in an old barn covered with a buffalo hide, (don’t laugh) it is also covered in all sorts of dirt and grime and chicken @#$#% with some light rust but it appears to be complete.

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    Default South Bend For Sale

    New to this forum and interested in selling a south bend lathe. Not sure how to post pictures but looks like serial tag says CL 187R and 4 1/2 below that. It’s in great shape with tons of tooling and it comes with cabinet. Anyone out there willing to help let me know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shawnrb21 View Post
    New to this forum and interested in selling a south bend lathe. Not sure how to post pictures but looks like serial tag says CL 187R and 4 1/2 below that. It’s in great shape with tons of tooling and it comes with cabinet. Anyone out there willing to help let me know.
    Where in Colorado? I might be interested.

    You can reply here, or send me a PM thru the forum.

    edit: sent you a PM, also you can email me pics at paul_somlo
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    or text them to 970 three seven one one two zero four

    Paul
    Last edited by paulsomlo; 04-18-2018 at 10:16 AM.

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    S/N 172587
    1946 10L
    4' bed
    Catalog #187AN

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toothpicks View Post
    Just acquired
    SN # 28360NAR9
    Model A
    Cat no. CL 644 Z
    Bed length 3 1/2

    I would like to know what I have before I start rebuilding it.
    It was literally found in an old barn covered with a buffalo hide, (don’t laugh) it is also covered in all sorts of dirt and grime and chicken @#$#% with some light rust but it appears to be complete.
    1952 Workshop 9A, 6 speed

    Steve

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    Quote Originally Posted by jml74 View Post
    S/N 172587
    1946 10L
    4' bed
    Catalog #187AN
    Does this have the under-drive steel bench?
    Does it have Bronze sleeve bearings in the headstock?
    Thanks,
    Steve

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    This lathe is located in my G-friends fathers blacksmith shop museum (Transue Bros blacksmith) 3225-transue-bros.-lathe.jpg where it has been since it was new in 1914,

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    Just picked up a workshop 9A:

    SN: 13976NAR9
    Casting date is 1948
    3 1/2 foot bed
    644Z HMD

    Dealer tag on the machine reads:
    R.C. Neal Company
    Buffalo - Rochester - Syracuse - Elmira

    Images here: South Bend Model A 1948 - Album on Imgur

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    Are you wanting a list just for SB's, or for other manufacturers as well? I recently picked up a 9C, but also have a (partial) Atlas TH-42, and a pre- High-Duty ATW lathe, that I've been meaning to message Greg about, since he seems to the the expert of all things ATW, lol.


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