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11-07-2009, 07:58 PM
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Cast Iron
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Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Cincinnati,Ohio
Posts: 492
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This lathe is listed on Cl in Cincinnati as a 9" but it looks like a 10K so what is it ?
Catalog no CL344Z
Bed Length 3 1/2 feet
Serial Number 31137NKR8
Don
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11-08-2009, 10:22 AM
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Stainless
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Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Indiana
Posts: 1,041
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Don, it is a 9 inch. The UMD 344 was a 12 speed under-drive on a metal column base.
this could be a right floor-leg model or a (I believe) 3-drawer rt leg. although this lathe you're
looking at is a 1952, here is an owners parts book that shipped with a 1945 model:
http://www.wswells.com/data/parts/pa...list_P-344.pdf
The 3-1/2 foot 344-ZD was a popular model and IMHO probably the best 9 inch Workshop made.
Fully tooled as a Tool room model it would be hard to beat for a small project lathe.
Steve
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11-08-2009, 11:56 AM
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Plastic
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Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: lake arrowhead , ca
Posts: 3
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SB serial #
9"x4' serial # 43619 catalog # 82-AB 8 speed quickchange gear box
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11-11-2009, 01:31 PM
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Plastic
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Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: north bay california
Posts: 3
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today it is her birthday
hi,
today i celbrate her birthday 
i got her in august.
currently she is undergoing some facelifting and surgery.
its about time with 65.
SB 9 x 3 1/2 modell A
Order no. 71323 3/20/1944
shipped 11/11/1944
Serial no 155 339
catalog no 344-ZN
under-bed-drive
shipped to the ninth naval dist. in grat lakes, ill.
she has the war production label and a anchor stamped next to the serial no on the bed.
as a bithday gift i got her a milling attachment, thanks to craig donges.
after the party you will find some pics of the birthday girl here:
http://gallery.me.com/macernst#10015...lack&view=grid
and now lets party
ernst
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11-13-2009, 09:00 AM
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Plastic
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Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Milwaukee
Posts: 1
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9" x 4 1/2' change gear
serial #73708
Getting cleaned and repainted now
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11-13-2009, 05:59 PM
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Aluminum
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Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Rincon, GA
Posts: 62
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Steve
Don't know alot about her she just came home with me today
Serial #14630TKX
Catalog# CL145 C
Bed Length 6'
Keith
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11-14-2009, 04:17 PM
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Plastic
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Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Grand Island, NY
Posts: 38
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Just picked up a 13" today.
I do not know the age, but should be in the 70-80's since the tag says
South bend an employee owned company.
My info:
Cat # CL0145C
Serial # 16825-T
It needs a bunch of cleaning, new paint and a few parts.
Don't think it was used a ton because it came out of a school.
Took a machinist friend with me and he said it should clean up great.
Tom
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11-15-2009, 04:17 PM
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Titanium
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Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Lawn Guylin, Noo Yawk
Posts: 2,284
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My Heavy 10
Got it about 4 years ago from a dungeon-like shop in Hoboken, NJ. It came equipped with a bed turret attachment (with serial number matching the bed), lever-collet closer and a bunch of tooling. Absolutely filthy, but the grime probably keeps it from rusting.
3-1/2' bed it is the X-braced type, and although it is not badged as such, I'm told it has hardened ways - you can't see any evidence of scraping, nor of wear, so the ways were probably ground.
Model CL187 ZB
S/N 14776 RKX16
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11-19-2009, 01:48 PM
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Plastic
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Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Katy, TX
Posts: 1
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Steve:
Picked up on craigslist Houston a 9" 415 Model C 3 1/2' bed.
s/n 111196
I did not get any change gears with it, so I'm in the market for a set.
Doug
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11-21-2009, 09:03 AM
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Stainless
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Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Indiana
Posts: 1,041
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JBH - post 778
Quote:
Originally Posted by JBH
sn95819
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95819, ?/?/?, 9 x 4-1/2, Workshop Model 9CW Catalog No. 415-RC, 12-speed HMD bench drive, SCG with adjustible 2-speed countershaft (2-step pulleys on motor and countershaft). 110V 1/3 hp motor 1725 rpm gives 12 spindle speeds from 41 to 1270.
late 1939 or early 1940, need the serial number card copy to confirm.
Steve
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11-21-2009, 09:30 AM
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Stainless
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Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Indiana
Posts: 1,041
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Post 779
Quote:
Originally Posted by jlelandthomas
51289 AND 32177
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The first is not a 405, but a 408 8 inch Junior Series.
51289, ?/?/1932, 8 x 3-1/2, Junior Series Catalog No. 408-ZF
A ZF was a bench lathe with non-adjustible rear countershaft drive
http://www.wswells.com/data/catalog/.../scan0002.html
32177, 9 x 3, O Series Catalog No. 61-YB, QCG Bench lathe,
Let me know if this has floor legs.
This is the Flathers QCG 9 inch first series, I believe. a guess is it's a 1926, the serial card
would help here as it could be a 1925 also.
http://www.wswells.com/data/catalog/...at_79jr_04.jpg
Steve
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11-21-2009, 09:47 AM
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Stainless
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Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Indiana
Posts: 1,041
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Post 780
Quote:
Originally Posted by NZastrow
79301
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Perfect information, Thank you!!
79301, 9/16/1938, 11 x 5, R Series Catalog No. 8111-B, UMD Tool room lathe,
does it look like this:
http://www.wswells.com/photos/serial_no/79374.jpg
Steve
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11-21-2009, 10:21 AM
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Stainless
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Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Indiana
Posts: 1,041
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Post 781
Quote:
Originally Posted by jimdrewett
31250KAR
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1973, need serial card copy to verify.
31250KAR, 10K x 4-1/2', Model A, Catalog No. CL770-R, 16-speed V-Belt HMD Bench Lathe,
Steve
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11-21-2009, 10:39 AM
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Stainless
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Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Indiana
Posts: 1,041
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Post 782
Quote:
Originally Posted by Larry S
14845RKX16
Shipped to:
Dynamic Precision Controls Corp.
449 East Main St.
Hagerstown, Indiana
Larry Swearingen
Fort Wayne, IN
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Thanks Larry, perfect info...that shipping address is about 10-12 miles from my house.
Hargerstown is like the prefect small town out of a novel.
Steve
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11-21-2009, 03:27 PM
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Plastic
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Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Hawaii
Posts: 3
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Re serial numbers
Newbie here but been lurking around for a while. I,m not young (67) and have been interested in anything mechanical since I was young. Been dabbling with cars for a while (restored my 67 Camaro, finally after almost 25 years. On and off of course.) Still working, can't afford to retire yet, bought a bigger house 3yrs. ago.
Any way, my main post is about a South Bend lathe we have at work. It was donated by the military to us. ( I worked with the correctional system here in our state).
Swing: 13"
Bed: Maybe a 30" or 40" ?
Ser.Number: 000033R1
Comes with taper attachment, couple of chucks and some Jacobs rubber collets, steady and follower rest.
I think something is wrong with the spindle, it moves,
has a play of about 1/2" from left to right.
I'll really appreciate it if someone can give me a background about this lathe, operators or parts manual availability. This lathe has not been used since
we got it about 5 yrs ago.
Thank you very much.
If this post is not in the right section, I do apologize.
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11-21-2009, 03:56 PM
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Cast Iron
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Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: South Bend, In
Posts: 465
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Quote:
Originally Posted by kiko hawaii
Newbie here but been lurking around for a while. I,m not young (67) and have been interested in anything mechanical since I was young. Been dabbling with cars for a while (restored my 67 Camaro, finally after almost 25 years. On and off of course.) Still working, can't afford to retire yet, bought a bigger house 3yrs. ago.
Any way, my main post is about a South Bend lathe we have at work. It was donated by the military to us. ( I worked with the correctional system here in our state).
Swing: 13"
Bed: Maybe a 30" or 40" ?
Ser.Number: 000033R1
Comes with taper attachment, couple of chucks and some Jacobs rubber collets, steady and follower rest.
I think something is wrong with the spindle, it moves,
has a play of about 1/2" from left to right.
I'll really appreciate it if someone can give me a background about this lathe, operators or parts manual availability. This lathe has not been used since
we got it about 5 yrs ago.
Thank you very much.
If this post is not in the right section, I do apologize.
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The serial number is a little odd for the description. But for the military, you never know! A picture will work wonders. Once we know for sure about what machine you have, your problem can be diagnoised.
Ted
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11-22-2009, 01:47 PM
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Plastic
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Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Seattle, WA - USA
Posts: 2
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1935 405-y
Serial#: 59777
Catalog: 405-Y
Type: Work.B.Hor.Plain,MD
Size: 9"x3'
bed: 5
headstock: 15
tailstock: 7
Saddle: 9
Comp Rest: 12
Apron: 9
RP Gear: M10
Original color: Grey
Originally sold and shipped 7/12/1935 to the Bainbridge Island, WA JR & SR Highschool.
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11-23-2009, 03:36 PM
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Plastic
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Join Date: May 2008
Location: "God Bless the U.S.A." Wisconsin, United States of America
Posts: 29
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1917 34B 13" X 5 foot South Bend
I do not believe I have done this yet though I have had good intentions . Do to health issues with my wife and I my shop is just about as much disarray as my real world. I live in SW Wisconsin and I traded a 14 foot Antique Lathe, this is more important than I knew at the time, to my buddy for this lathe. I thought it was the sweetest looking lathe I had ever seen when he showed it to me It had belonged to his Grandfather for maybe 50 or 60 years, I am just guessing. He lived here in SW Wisconsin also. I have had it for a couple years about. Someday it will shine with Satin Black but I am ashamed to say it is just as I traded for it. I have cleaned the ways and though not in this photo I have put a new 1 hrsp motor on it and rewired the conglomeration. Having to reach over the spinning work piece to shut it off was someones bad Idea. It had been taken great care of and my buddys Grandfather was a perfectioist and disgusting as it is, had every tool in his shop organized and where you could find it. It is a South Bend Lathe 13 Inch with a 60 inch total length bed with I believe it's called - OverHead Drive. The s/n is 12776. Thanks to a PM friend I have all the change wheels, the Large & the Small face plate, the steady rest with a set of new jaws, a nice 5" chuck with ID holding jaws, a 6" chuck that has issue and wrenches, tool holders,cut off holder etc etc, foreward and reversing switch etc. It is in very good shape for a used lathe, period - let alone a 92 year old lathe, it's a fine example of AMERICAN WORKMANSHIP. . It was the 3rd machine I aquired after starting to collect Vintage Metal Working equipment. Now I am up to 10 machines of all sorts. I have had a great time on this site and met some very giving and unselfish folks from everywhere, all of which I would like to call friend. " REMEMBER TO SAVE OUR MACHINES FROM THE SCRAP YARDS!!!! "
Invent_4U
Last edited by Invent_4U; 11-23-2009 at 03:44 PM.
Reason: Added Material I forgot.
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11-23-2009, 11:21 PM
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Plastic
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Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Canada, Toronto
Posts: 2
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ser # SBL 9"
Acquired 2 days ago, I am probably the 3rd owner. Have disassembled for inspection and cleaning, she looks good so far.
9 inch, Model A, 3 ½ bed, UMD, standard cone drive
Cat # CL 344Z
Ser # 45182 NKR9
Bed # DDB-101NK
Distributor plate CANADIAN FAIRBANKS.MORSE
Inside of cabinet has date ink stamp "11 58"
How to Run a Lathe revised edition 55 (1958), is marked MacKenzie High School, Deep River, Ontario, Technical Department, Machine Shop.
Purchased at local auction by second owner, a machinist at the Deep River nuclear power plant, circa 1977.
Other original docs included:
Lubrication Chart Copyright 1955: T5511--10XM--6-55
Parts List 6-15-57: Form 900D, 902C, 903D, 904D, 906J, 921E, 929B, 949A, 960C, 968
Maintenance 3-5-58: Form 2000
Special Information 10-15-57: Form 1038
Unit blueprint copies 8x11: Instructions (dwg no. Inst. 109), Motor Control (dwg no. 3-413-D), Steel Column Base Lathe (dwg ref E2 101), 9" Lathe Thread Dial (dwg no. ATT.-94)
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11-24-2009, 05:10 AM
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Plastic
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Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: indina usa
Posts: 9
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Steve if this is any use just picked up a 9 inch model A cat. #744A serial#162662 and has the war production board tag 4 foot bed. Steve
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