I think Papa said Taiwan.

Papagrizzly

As a thought perhaps you could provide a copy of the serial number card when someone makes a parts purchase as a courtesy (free) - since you are probably going to use the serial number to determine the correct part. Sort of a purchase incentive - limited time/minimum order required?

Dennis C.

I'm curious. The 7" and 9" lathes listed as coming soon, are they going to be a new (or old) designs, or are they the standard import models already in those sizes in various brands?

I, for one, am completely geeked out by this news. I have been looking at home shop lathes lately, and I'd love a new South Bend. Also, I am a +1 for grizzly machines and service. I have a bandsaw and a slow speed grinder. The wheel of the grinder was damaged in shipping. None were in stock, so the service guy opened a unit for sale and sent me that wheel from that one.

I am not sure that the threads on the 10K need to be touched.
The 10K spindle has two tapers the outer is for the 6K collet system The inner is essentially a MT-3.
The present bore is 0.860. Even opening it to 0.890 would be a big improvement allowing 7/8 stock to run through the spindle.
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Now better than half the 1 1/2-8 threads are covering the taper used for the 6K collets which for the most part exceeds 1".
Opening the bore to 1" would reduce the 6K taper length from 9/16 to 7/16". This would be problematic for the use of 6K collets but an integral ER-32 taper could be an option.

The second taper on the bore could no longer be MT-3 but retaining the SB approach a proprietary 0.602 taper could be used and still leave enough wall.

Just my thoughts and as all have mentioned I welcome the new owners and the new initiate to bring the Mark back.

Jim B.

Shiraz, all the best to you ! We are aware you are an immigrant who made the most of you opportunity in this country on your own hard work and we are all proud of you, and proud that you are a fellow American. I know you will be a wonderful caretaker for these machines and the new generation thats to come, and that they will be a success. My dealings with Grizzly have always been a pleasure, and I know that will continue.

FWIW, I went to high school in Iran in the 70s when my father worked in the oil business. I enjoyed my time there and admired that wonderful and ancient country and its people. Bill S

Gentlemen,

I've enjoyed this forum since finding it about 6 mos ago. I've learned a lot about machining, machining history, and machines from you all. If you've read my posts you may have figured out that I worked with natural stone for many years and now spend a lot of time playing with wood. I found my South Bend by accident while searching for a wood lathe. Since then I've cleaned it up a bit, replaced the motor and learned to use it for basic stuff.

When I started on this forum I had no idea that I would have such close contact with the owner of a large corp like Grizzly. Not to mention getting to read stories from a man who has inventions in the Smithsonian, how cool is that!

Question for Papa Grizzly: Can I, (and others here) expect any end to the difficult task of finding items for my 11" tool room model? The odd spindle size makes chucks hard to find, followers and steadies are not easily found either.

Thanks for you efforts!

gp

Looks like Grizzly Industries just picked up a new Board of Directors.

One of the accessories very lacking from the aftermarket, used or otherwise, is indeed, steady and follow rests, particularly the latter, I think.

I just wish I could beat Grizzly to that market.

The last (and only) new (meaning unused) SBL I saw was a Heavy 10 offered by Rose. I don't remember how that resolved itself.

Perhaps I should have waited to invest $7,000 and a half a year's work on my 10L Frankenlathe.

You see, some of are really nuts.

Cheers and all the best with your new endeavor.

Wally.

What color will you paint the new SB lathes?

John.

If they paint them anything but gray, they might as well forget it !!!!!! I'm sick of those green machines

Two things that God definately intended.....

Ferrari's to be painted RED.

Machinery to be painted GRAY.


alg4884

Papagrizzly,

Where do I send job applications to? I'll be glad to sweep the wherehouse floors and droll over all those shelves of parts. I have frends that don't live too far from Branson. I do own a 9" SB workshop lathe that's been in the family since it was born in '49. Wll that qualify?

Ken Stokley

And Taiwan is where? China.

I have an early Enco Drill Press made in Taiwan. The castings are not that much better than what you you get on the mainland.

Hey- how about some AMERICAN (U.S.A.) castings, and parts made of U.S. steel, putting US workers back to work. Many, many shops would give Grizzly a good price for US-made goods rather than go out of business.

Just my opinion, of course, but I say "Made in USA is best".

Thumbz (Nelson)

papagrizzly -

Not really a lathe-related comment, but on your new website, I really like the robotic hand holding the old SB emblem. Kudos to whoever modeled the hand!

Ditto on getting us reasonably priced parts along with online parts diagrams, and bulletins. New accessories for the old models would be a close second. If you're using the old specs for the new machines then things like a carriage stop and steady rest etc should match up fine.

The biggest issue is going to be making a true quality product with a price point that will still sell well. Unfortunately everyone looks at price instead of value anymore. I wish him well. I think tinkering to much with the old 10K/10L machines can be a dangerous game. SBL sold the heck of the them for a reason, they worked well for a reasonable price. That said some changes are just a given we have to ditch that old belt, a serpentine will be my preferred (and one you don't have to splice!). That makes me wonder if you narrowed up the belt could you squeeze a four step pulley in the 10L headstock? Also do a D1-4 cam lock spindle, or maybe that's an option?

Pappagrizzly...Bravo, have enjoyed watching the selection and quality of Grizzly machines improve over the years and I am proud to have some in my shop. I might add that your tools are the ONLY offshore tools in my shop. Without Grizzly many of us would be making parts with a hacksaw and file because we couldn't afford the tools.

Hey guys, I really think we should support this guy. Hey didn't have to buy Southbend to sell lathes. Obviously he didn't want to see the lineage disappear, and disappearing it was. Also, for your info, every Southbend built after 1979 was built out of offshore parts. I know this because when I ordered some half - nuts for my 1978 10K, the fellow told me I hade one of the last US made ones. So you see, SBL had already fled offshore.

Cheers Kevin.

Dear papagrizz. I ordered one of your grizzly lathes. Sorry, I canceled my order cause a heavy 10 came for sale at a nice price. I don’t feel so bad any more.

PapaGrizzly, all this news is very exciting. I hope you are able to put a quality product onto the market and be successful with it. It wouldn't seem logical that you would produce two lines of lathes that were in direct competition with each other (Grizzly vs. South Bend), so I hope you plan for South Bend to be a cut above the rest.

I'm a HSM with 10" and 13" Sheldon lathes and a Sherline in my shop. I have two retired South Bends, one being a 9" with change gears, lead-screw feed, and no cross feed. Of those five lathes, the 9" SB was by far the most fun and the most satisfying to use. I guess the elegance of mechanical simplicity is what appealed to me.

If you can retain some of the elegant lines (and I don't consider square-blocky tailstock castings to be in that category) and flavor of the South Bend, I promise I'll one day take delivery of a battle-ship gray South Bend at your Bellingham outlet.

When I was in high school back in the fifties I always kept a South Bend catalog in my stack of text books and would spend my study hall time drooling over the pictures, dreaming of the day when I could afford one of those 10" floor models. Who knows, maybe that dream can come true.

Best regards,

Orrin

Hi: I think v-belt pulleys and a spindle capable of using 5c collets would be a great plus. Why even bother with a 10K. Joe Carroll

Alex W - the 10K will be offered in two versions, a benchtop and the full cabinet design.

WAS Jr - Thanks for the good wishes. My father and his father, grandfather were born in India. I was born in Kenya and landed in the Land of opportunity almost 40 years ago. To a certain extent, almost everyone in this country is an immigrant or has immigrant roots. That is what makes this country so great!

Wally M - Rose hasn't been with South bend for over a year. LeBlond had her help out for about a year and then she moved away. I never knew her, but I know that she was adored by many. Wish we could have her.

John in MA - All I can tell you about the smaller lathes (7" and 9") is that they will be typical South Bend and not the standard stuff that you can buy everywhere.

Stnecut - I will look into requests such as yours when I come up for air.

Jeagan - Grey, of course!! However, I will be the sole person deciding what shade of Grey it will be. You will like what you see.

4GSR - that's a good idea - South Bend lathe owners working in the parts area. Might have to block internet access on their computers, though

Jim McIntyre - Thank you.

To all - About the quality of South Bend machines: I have reiterated my position several times on this matter. To those that are skeptical about what I say - perhaps you should reserve judgement until you see the stuff. I didn't walk into this Lion's Den with the intent of becoming a snack!!!