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Old 08-21-2008, 03:42 AM
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Default Machine Porn: These gal's got some hips...

Well, haven't really posted in awhile. Busier than hell with a ton of crap going on and then on top of it..... a new girl rolls in the door. Well, triplets to be exact......

#1 is near turnkey, #2 is beginning to grow... #3 is not far behind. The first of it's kind was installed in Wisconsin (I think). These are number 2, 3 and 4 to be installed in the country.

Her name is Toyoda FH1250SX with: 15k BIG PLUS spindles, 330 Tool Hive, Renishaw touch probes and tool probes, almost every control option like expanded memory (both front and HD), Adaptive Feed Control, the top end HSM software and hardware.... you name it.... , full 4th, Consep High dump conveyors (7 ft.), 1000 PSI thru-spindle coolant pumps., etc, etc....

An FMS is being planned to go in front of them as well. But since the machine model is so new, they've never built one so it's all still in concept. Tentative designs are laid down but nothing even in draft. I don't care much for the 310i control (too many issues at high speed and fast buffers) but we'll see how this newer revision works out. Toyoda also has a new control/software overlay that's only installed on these FH machines so far. I hope we don't get beat up too bad as guinea pigs. The 40HP spindle is low for my blood but what she can manage is yet to be seen.

The magazines for now is only 120 tool chain. They didn't have the hives ready yet. Once they're in (around October or so) the machine will grow another 12 feet plus out back...

She's a tall, wide and a long one and you could throw a band up there on the load stations for a concert. Notice the guy on top of the machine in the second photo for perspective... The fun should begin soon...
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Old 08-21-2008, 03:44 AM
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One more shot of machine #2 in its "bare naked lady" stage....

Oh... and some numbers....

XYZ is 83.5 x 63.0 x 73.0

She can clear a Ø94.50 inch by 71" tall

11000 pound table capacity (low IMO for a machine this size)

... 1181 IPM rapid/feed... Not bad. I can't remember the acceleration.... have to look that up....
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Old 08-21-2008, 05:19 AM
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Holy Shitski itski, I could live in that thing and breed a whole herd, and you have 3 of them????????????????

Technically, thats BBM(big beautiful machine) porn, so the pretty boys and the ones still in the closet may not like it. Them are some big girls, I'd take one home in a second(I'm not saying what I would do with her), OR I could actually put my home IN one.

Very nice.
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Old 08-21-2008, 07:11 AM
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I'm more of leg man, but she's some kinda gal,........... now you're going to tell us they pay you to play with gals like that as well
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Old 08-21-2008, 07:22 AM
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I would not know what to do with myself if I were to stand in the awe of one of those big ladies!

I do have to ask just out of curiousity sakes how much? I'm sure the price tag on that makes my truck, house, paycheck and livelihood look like nothing more thank nickels and dimes!
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Old 08-21-2008, 07:26 AM
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Man, that is some neat bit of kit.

<jelous as hell here
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Old 08-21-2008, 07:36 AM
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1200 ipm rapid,oh yeah!.the slow down knob will be the first to have the paint wore off.
11,000#s is a bit lite for a envelope of dat size.
congrads,looks like fun to me.
best of luck,
thanks 4 sharing.
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Old 08-21-2008, 08:57 AM
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Very interesting! Thanks for the pictures and the info!

Jeff.
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Old 08-21-2008, 10:09 AM
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Thats a real pretty mobile home you got there, why did you put it inside...

Thanks for sharing, let us know when you are throwing chips.

Of course you know the kind of bills you get with one of those trophy wifes?

Charles
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Old 08-21-2008, 10:42 AM
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I be kinda interested to see this gal shake her hips.

Post up some vids when she is dancing, and happy machining.
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Old 08-21-2008, 10:46 AM
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Psychomill I just wanted to say thanks for taking one for the team. You were willing to take the big girls home so we could have the small ones.

Make sure that you get some good pics when that thing is making chips.

Greg your right, at 1200IPM the over ride knob will be the first thing to break. This machine could probably use a sphincter activated estop .

I stold that line from another post could not remember who said it but I was if tears when I heard it.

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Old 08-21-2008, 11:03 AM
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Stevo -

I just made a mess on the floor laughing so hard on that one. Thanks for the morning wake-up and I'll be sure to share it.
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Old 08-21-2008, 11:18 AM
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Question, in that last picture. I see 5 of the bigger servos with the red endbells. But what are the 2 other smaller white motors that we see way on the end closer to us, what do they control?

Oh and was it 3 for the price of 2 ? haha, I bet they cost a few dollars, very nice.
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Old 08-21-2008, 11:25 AM
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Only 40 HP? What are you guys making, and what kind of tooling do yuu use that stands up to "only 40 HP"?

I just gotta ask, I never had the chance to dance with gals of that caliber.
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Old 08-21-2008, 12:06 PM
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1200IPM won't look NEARLY as fast on that machine as it does on the small machines.

White motor looks like chip auger.


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I see HUGE problems in the very near future with those cute little baby augers! I don't think they expect anybody to make 240cim for a half hour straight like you guys.

Insane machine though!
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How thick is the foundation under that bad boy?
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Old 08-21-2008, 12:41 PM
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As Tobie Keith would say "Runnin Block".

I am pretty sure my shoup would fit inside that thing. And you have 3!!

I can't wait for the home movies.

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Old 08-21-2008, 12:58 PM
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dollars?? Well, because of corporate relations and other things, I can't put down the exact... however, let's just say you could build yourself a real nice custom beach house on a few acres in Monterey Bay ...

1200ipm is routine for me.. big or small machine... rapid or feed.... But Ox is dead on. 1200 inches on a machine this size is like time slowing down. The relative size makes it look slow and to be honest, not that hard to maintain control at this size... unless of course you've got the spindle cartridge inside the part feeding at 1200 inches.

The machine has dual ball screws which account for the motors plus the table one. The white ones (there's actually three of them) are the chip augers.

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Only 40 HP? What are you guys making, and what kind of tooling do yuu use that stands up to "only 40 HP"?

I just gotta ask, I never had the chance to dance with gals of that caliber.
Yes, "only 40HP" in my book. Not trying to be vain but my handle "Psychomill" was a nickname given to me back in the mid 80's and it stuck ever since. As tool technology, horsepower and process/program methodology improved, it only solidified that name according to my "sources". To me? I make or stake no claims of anything.... I just like to play with toys. What kind of cutters? Too many to list but they're not super special or uncommon. I've been playing with 50HP+ machines for the last 10 years (outside of the 150HP gantries I've played with but thats a different ballgame). So 40 is like moving back in time. BUT.. we'll see how the torque, acceleration and other things work with it. I won't call it crap unless I can prove that the combination is crap. The continuous HP rating drops off real bad with FANUC motors but again, we'll see...

And Joe, you're right, I see a potential problem with the augers as well.... even with 3 (but little) ones. I push 200-300+ cubes already. But I've had similar type setups give me big problems at only 100-150 cubes. There may be some serious modifying in the machines future. For the moment, the first jobs going up are large plates so its not like I'll have a 5" cutter moving 300 cubes for an hour. Might be the saving grace for the time being.

Foundation? Believe or not, Toy only spec'd it at 20". I wanted minimum 40" anyway but didn't get it. I think its around 24-28 or so with 2 or 3 levels of rebar. But considering the size of this girl, she actually doesn't weigh that much. But the weight and leverage in motion is what usually causes foundation problems. Would suck to have to redo that eh?..

Here's a photo for perspective of the inside cavity capacity. I'll see if I can get something a little more clear if you guys can't tell. This shot are from a tool show in Japan....

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Old 08-21-2008, 01:18 PM
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Yep.. 3 of 'em. OH! but its not over yet. We may prowl the alleys for some more of these girls soon. But, next month, I have some others coming in. This time, it will be twins.... with far more "experience" and a completely different "wardrobe" from a different "town". I'll paste their posters up too when they come in....

Back to the "grind"...

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