How will China's new airliner fair?

[Terry Keeley]

After a long development period the first Comac C919 was delivered to China Eastern last month, it's been very quiet since, any idea what's going on with it? Manny?

Comac C919 - Wikipedia

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[moonlight machine]

After a long development period the first Comac C919 was delivered to China Eastern last month, it's been very quiet since, any idea what's going on with it? Manny?

Comac C919 - Wikipedia

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Do you really think you will get the truth out of the CCP?

 

[Rob F.]

They didn't fly it to Nepal did they?

 

[DDoug]

I'm certain our new FAA will trip all over themselves to grant a license for it to fly in our airspace....

 

[Terry Keeley]

The office looks a bit like Airbus with the side stick but a lot "busier", kinda like an Alibaba website:

A320:

 

[standardparts]

The office looks a bit like Airbus with the side stick but a lot "busier", kinda like an Alibaba website:

A320:

Lots of info on the 'net.
Airframe is Chinese.
Lots of intellectual property supposedly got hacked a number of years ago from various U.S. aerospace companies.
Usual U.S. and Euro joint ventures for flight management and other systems, so upside is some Western companies will benefit while each one sold is one less aircraft that Boeing or Airbus builds.
Best guess the C919 is for domestic service and maybe for those countries the U.S./EU has sanctions against?

 

[standardparts]

The office looks a bit like Airbus with the side stick but a lot "busier", kinda like an Alibaba website:

A320:

What....China forgot the pull out table and foot rests like the Scud? Sat it ain't so.

 

[CarbideBob]

All I will say is to never underestimate the competition while on top of the hill.

 

[Terry Keeley]

What....China forgot the pull out table and foot rests like the Scud? Sat it ain't so.

Both there but the rudder pedals and foot rest look real narrow...

 

[Terry Keeley]

All I will say is to never underestimate the competition while on top of the hill.

From Wiki:

"COMAC aims to take a fifth of the global narrowbody market and a third of the Chinese market by 2035.[10] It expects 2,000 sales in the next 20 years."

They also say the average price for orders so far is $68.4 million, way less that Boeing or Airbus. Think the airlines will bite on that?

 

[triumph406]

They also say the average price for orders so far is $68.4 million, way less that Boeing or Airbus. Think the airlines will bite on that?

Well if airlines are anything like Walmart shoppers looking for the cheapest products, I would say yes, they'll be all over the New Airliner

 

[DDoug]

Does it autofly itself straight into the ground ?

 

[gwelo62]

From Wiki:

"COMAC aims to take a fifth of the global narrowbody market and a third of the Chinese market by 2035.[10] It expects 2,000 sales in the next 20 years."

They also say the average price for orders so far is $68.4 million, way less that Boeing or Airbus. Think the airlines will bite on that?

I bet the Chinese CEO and his cronies are not paid the obscene salaries Boeing pays their equivalents.

 

[plastikdreams]

I bet the Chinese CEO and his cronies are not paid the obscene salaries Boeing pays their equivalents.

It's a state run company...like everything else there.

They make another jet the ajr21...compare it to a mad dog 80.

 

[Comatose]

After what Boeing did to the Bombardier CSeries and themselves with the various 737 bungles over the past decade, there's a screaming, gaping hole in the market that this plugs nicely. I'm sure it'll be more reliable than an Iluyshin.

 

[moonlight machine]

After what Boeing did to the Bombardier CSeries and themselves with the various 737 bungles over the past decade, there's a screaming, gaping hole in the market that this plugs nicely. I'm sure it'll be more reliable than an Iluyshin.

Let's hope it is anyway

 

[plastikdreams]

No way I would fly on a Chinese plane with pirated software controlling it...not a chance.

 

[standardparts]

It's a state run company...like everything else there.

They make another jet the ajr21...compare it to a mad dog 80.

In a way there are U.S. companies that likely only exist due to Gov't intervention.
'state run'? ---- Guess the devil is in the details.

 

[gwelo62]

Every year the Chinese get better and better-just like the Japs.

 

[Comatose]

Let's hope it is anyway

The first decade of them will be built with CFM engines, same as a 737. So yeah, I would bet a lot of money on these being more reliable than anything Russia has ever or will ever make.

Airframes aren't _that_ complicated. It's the engines that are always hard in aviation.