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@empower, I just saw the video you posted on the 'Haas UMC500 = biggest flop i've ever seen' thread. Yikes!! No wonder you've got a bad taste in your mouth for Haas 5-axis, that machine was terrible!

Oh man, that's a good point, I hadn't thought about how the casting would have to be different for the moving spindle, I was just thinking of the base/table. If that's the case then my being hopeful was pretty much for sure preemptive. If the casting is similar to the UMC 500, 750, etc. and not...

Care to elaborate on what mistakes you've made? I'm genuinely, sincerely asking. I came to this forum to learn from the collective experience of guys who have done this much longer than me, so if there's some info or experience you'd like to share I'd love to hear.

Exactly, I've heard horror stories about the stuff guys have to do to make their UMC 500's, 750's, etc. make accurate parts. I'm not interested in getting a UMC 500 or any of its bigger brothers precisely because I've read so much of that. That's part of why I'm preemptively excited about the...

Would it be more rigid if it was directly integrated into the machine? Yes, from a design perspective I'm 99.9% sure it would, but this setup actually makes a lot of sense for a few reasons. 1. I imagine this machine is going to be advertised to shops looking to get into 5-axis. If so, they're...

I'm not saying absolutely every shop started out with Haas machines, but I assume that a majority of shops have used at least a Haas machine or two to help them get to where they are, even if they're at the point they could get rid of all of their Haas's for better/more capable machines. If I'm...

Holy crap.... I didn't realize there were so many prics in here. I am not a Haas salesman. I'm a Mechanical Engineer with specializations in design for manufacturing (DFM) and manufacturing processes as well as the lead programmer and setup machinist in our shop. I posted info about the UMC...

Getting the thread back on topic, after looking at the pictures of the UMC 350 models some more it actually looks like the rotaries aren't permanently attached. If you look at the pictures of the UMC 350SS specifically you can see the TRT100 rotary is clamped on with standard toe clamps like it...

Thanks for the info!! I'm already thinking of all sorts of parts I could use that for. I'm definitely going to check that out!

18 tools is pretty low.... That's more than enough for one job at a time (at least for the jobs I do/have done) and/or a machine dedicated to one part/product though, but for more efficient job shop work or automation it's definitely low. I assume that's what you mean when you say the U500 with...

I haven't heard of spindle grippers before. Are they basically like a robot 'hand' that attaches to the spindle instead of an arm and can load parts/raw stock sitting off to the side of the table inside the machine? I'm going to have to check that out.

Oh man..... I missed the platter dimensions the first time around. Yeah, a 3.94" platter on a 15" x 14" X,Y travel machine suuucks. And the TRT100 rotary that the table is based on says it has a weight limit of only 15 lbs. Add fixture weight to that and you're not going to be able to put a very...

Hey everyone! I was just on the Haas Automation website comparing their 5-axis machines to other companies' offerings and I stumbled across this website link that didn't show up on their directory. Looks like Haas is about to roll out a few new, smaller versions of the UMC 500 which it looks...

Sooo true! As an engineer I love maximizing things and getting every bit of performance and efficiency out of whatever I'm working on, and my journey so far into getting the best recipes for machining as fast, reliably, and as efficiently as possible definitely feels like it's going to be a long...

You're exactly right, carbide is better in pretty much every way except for price, which I why I've only ever used carbide. 2-3x faster speeds? More rigid? Lasts longer than HSS? Be more productive with your hourly shop rate than HSS? Carbide is definitely the way to go generally speaking. I...

Exactly! I'd rather invest more money in a tool that's going to help make us money than pinch pennies to buy the cheapest tool I can that's going to cost me waaay more than the expensive tool would because of the performance/shop time increase. That being said, everyone loves a good deal when...

Thanks for all of the replies everyone! (Thread derailing aside :D) I really appreciate the detailed help! I'm familiar with the general performance differences between HSS and Carbide, which is exactly why I have only ever gone with carbide end mills, but I had never heard specifically of...

Hey everyone! New member here, and this is my first post on this forum. Quick background: I'm a mechanical engineer, EIT to be specific, who also has a passion for CNC machining. I have a couple of years of experience designing, programming, and setting up parts for CNC machining and helped...