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  1. wheelieking71

    New Machine Day - Robot Invasion!

    This right here ^^^^ is really the meat & potatoes behind most every automation decision. The only variable I would add (closely related to staff support) is shop fluidity. Wruss went haas cause he is a happy haas owner, with a haas shop. I would go Brother cause I'm a happy Brother owner. If I...
  2. wheelieking71

    My dilemma.....Y axis lathe w/sub or invest in pallet system for 2nd ops?

    This right here ^^^^ If that Bro you already have makes your eyes wide Dave? Wait until you spend some time with a Bro "R" machine.
  3. wheelieking71

    New Machine Day - Robot Invasion!

    Exactly. To automate, just like the machine tools we are looking to feed, there is no one option does all. Outside looking in: Having seen most of the part pics Wruss has posted through the years, taking what little we know of his shop dynamic in to consideration, and for reasons you have...
  4. wheelieking71

    New Machine Day - Robot Invasion!

    Nope. At least not in an R650X1. Not sure about a 40-tool X2? That is Y-home in the pic:
  5. wheelieking71

    New Machine Day - Robot Invasion!

    I'm sure most of you guys have seen me bitch on here about the family of parts I do where 4 of the 8 part#s take 7 operations to complete in a VMC (no way around it, trust me, LOL). and the other 4 part#s take 5 operations. If I had the set-up I elude to with a 5th on one side like bryan just...
  6. wheelieking71

    New Machine Day - Robot Invasion!

    Hell yea! Exactly! Thanks Matt, LOL (how have I not seen that one?)
  7. wheelieking71

    New Machine Day - Robot Invasion!

    For the most part, you git it. But, we don't need both in/out tray. Since the stock on the bottom is likely un-machined, just set the part back where it came from. One real neat thing about grippers I learnt from Scott (awesome dude!) was, you can make one gripper do two things. Shallow pocket...
  8. wheelieking71

    New Machine Day - Robot Invasion!

    Personally I think what wrustle is doing here is about the most practical application for automation in the small shop. That being the automation first-OP everything from simple extruded bar. And, hand load any subsequent operations. After my short stint dealing with "real" automation, the...
  9. wheelieking71

    Low volume suggestions workholding / pallet for round stock on mill

    davidn posted these wonderful pics a while back:
  10. wheelieking71

    New Machine Day - Robot Invasion!

    I had very, very specific parameters to cover when I set that system up. Simple A/B part. Part comes out finished. Run, reliably, un-manned for as long as possible. So, the bot had a two gripper knuckle, there was a turn-over station in the bot enclosure, and two air-vises on the table. Part...
  11. wheelieking71

    New Machine Day - Robot Invasion!

    Spot on! My system had about a 24 month ROI. Because it was for one part #. Once it was running? Just keep it fed, and cash the checks. This is why I rolled the dice. As long as that part ran for two years, at worst case I was even with the iron on the floor. To bad it only went about 6 months...
  12. wheelieking71

    New Machine Day - Robot Invasion!

    Exactly as David stated. I went with a "turn-key" package to produce one specific part. In doing so I worked closely with the (at that time) Yamazen apps. guy on the process. I had already been making these parts for years, so I had the process and tooling dialed as fast as it reliably could be...
  13. wheelieking71

    Stupid question - programmable overhang boring bar holder?

    Yep! I used to do a fair bit of hard-turning with CBN's. 60+ Rockwell. It did not take me long to figure out that those inserts like/need a chip! If your pass cut 3 tenths over? Scrap it. Cause a spring-pass was out of the question without harmonics showing up. (In this application) Same parts...
  14. wheelieking71

    Stupid question - programmable overhang boring bar holder?

    If he can define the tool in CAM, it stays "touched off" in the machine. All he has to do to use it at the machine is pick the correct tool/number in his CAM. I think that is what he was getting at with the "rack & pinion" part of his comment? A holder that would index in/out a certain amount...
  15. wheelieking71

    Stupid question - programmable overhang boring bar holder?

    Needs lots of likes. But, I think I might get where he is going? And you, like me, don't mind time standing on your feet at the iron vs. on your ass at the desk.
  16. wheelieking71

    B&A Precision

    Ohh it was "real" alright! LOL (That was the whole intent of the thread from the beginning) I could have done without 99% of the drama myself. But, like you said: REAL. I shared the good and bad. No matter if the bad was self driven or not. Learn from my mistakes maybe? Since it got bumped, and...
  17. wheelieking71

    Iffy lift of the day... 16,000 lb (weight) forklift with 15,000 (capacity) forklift....

    Before I knew my go-to guys (riggers) had left the place they were, and moved on to a better place, I scheduled a move. I had never seen the guys that showed up for that one. And it was a shit show. I had an '83 Nakamura Slant-1 at the time. Dumb-ass dropped one rear corner about 8". Hit hard...
  18. wheelieking71

    Iffy lift of the day... 16,000 lb (weight) forklift with 15,000 (capacity) forklift....

    Yep! The rigger I use always, ALWAYS, places a thin (Looks like 1/4", but I would guess its smashed 3/8" LOL) square of plywood on the forks under the iron any time the surface they are working on is anything but flat/level. He/they also always place the same ply squares on the skates before the...
  19. wheelieking71

    Iffy lift of the day... 16,000 lb (weight) forklift with 15,000 (capacity) forklift....

    3,245lbs off the ground with a 1,900lb rated lift! LOL https://www.instagram.com/p/CA_7VsVJ1_V/ I don't lift these silly loads very high with Pit-Stop. But, I do move them around often. Nobody loves a forklift more than I love Pit-Stop!
  20. wheelieking71

    Joining the brother gang

    Yea, the code is similar. But, the control itself is worlds better than Fanuc for anybody even remotely IT-challenged! (ME! LOL) The newest Fanuc I have experience with is my lathe (2001). And I hate it. Sever older Fanuc equipped machines under my belt as well. Both mills and lathes. Everything...
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