Antique Lathes and Mills Information Help

[tyler88]

Hello, I have three lathes and two types of mills. Needing more information on each piece. Looking to sell the equipment and wondering what these pieces of equipment would sell for running and not running.

Included is pictures of the first item, Lehmann lathe 20" x 72".

 

[tyler88]

Schumacher & Boye Lathe 20" x 72"

 

[RCPDesigns]

Location, tooling and access will be big factors in the price.

 

[johnoder]

The SB predates 1912 and is basically scrap - though you may have to pay to haul it off. Many years later it would become Boye & Emmes. In general, this make had no QC gear box until Mr. Emmes joined the firm

Lehmann is about 80 years old

 

[Richard King]

Look at Vintagemachinery.org and see if it's listed there.

 

[tyler88]

Thank you all for the additional information.

Images below of Giddings & Lewis Horizontal Boring Mill
-Any info. on this piece?

 

[dalmatiangirl61]

$10,000 per machine, don't take a penny less.

 

[johnoder]

Serial book goes back to 1920 and mentions no "0"
I'd guess its from the nineteen teens or earlier - meaning plain spindle bearings and slow spindle speeds - which I don't see in your photos
(G & L HBM)

 

[tyler88]

Morris Radial Arm Drill

 

[4GSR]

I rebuilt a old Lehmann lathe just like yours almost 45 years ago. I only got $500 for it when it sold twenty years later. Didn't even come close to recouping the investment I had in the old lathe not including the labor I put in it.

 

[4GSR]

Notice on the Lehmann lathe. The spindle is equipped with a L-1 spindle nose. This feature did not appear until the very late 1930's early 1940's. The bronze bearing spindle bearings were gone by the end of the 1940's and replaced with Timken bearings. We had one with Timken bearings with the L-1 spindle nose, been too long ago to remember details of that lathe. They made this style gear head lathe up into the mid 1950's before it was obsoleted and replaced with the Hydrotrol headstock lathe. The rest of the lathe didn't change in design or improvements to its end in 1972. So, John's estimate on age is correct by a decade give or take a few years. Ken

 

[CarlBoyd]

How much they are worth depends on where you are and how long you can wait.
Neither of the lathes have any real commercial value, and are too big for most (but not all) hobbyist.
The Radial Drill and maybe the HBM still have some commercial value.
My guess as to value (My area, no tooling) assuming you want to sell them in 3 months or so.
Lehmann lathe $800
Schumacher & Boye Lathe $400
G&L HBM $1000
Morris Radial Drill $1200

If you want them gone in a month, cut that in half, if you can wait a year or 2, add 50%.

CarlBoyd

 

[Froneck]

The Lehmann might have plain bearings similar to what Hendey used. Drip oiler for spindle bearings could be for plain bearing so machine could be 90 years old. 400RPM seems slow for a 40's machine with roller or ball bearings. However I know little about Lehmann lathes, one of the few brands I've never owned or operated.

 

[4GSR]

This Lehmann has the L-1 spindle nose on it. So it puts it age around 80 years old or less. That's the first one I've seen with plain bearings and a L-1 spindle nose. Most with the L-1 nose has Timken bearings. The 400 RPM is normal for plain bearings on this size lathe. Mine had the same speeds. The Timken bearing spindle had a slightly higher spindle speed, something like 600 RPM. Ken

 

[nt1953]

Now that the forum has changed, unless you tell us, I don't know how we can know where these machines are. So, where are they?

 

[tyler88]

Thanks again for the info.

The machines are in southern Illinois.

 

[Rick Hand]

Thanks again for the info.

The machines are in southern Illinois.

How far south? I live west of Springfield.