Any Pratt Whitney lathe owners out there?

[morsetaper2]

JohnnyV, thats a really nice machine. Whats the history & details of it? How old, where did it spend its life, how did you gewt it? What was required to get it into the shape its in?

 

[Johnny V]

The machine was in pretty much the condition you see it (mechanically) but was almost black and sitting in the corner of a machine shop on the west side of Cleveland. Original owner was Addressograph Multigraph then to the shop I got it from at Auction. I got the machine for $1300.00 with everything you see and the steady rest for another $100.00. The was a small Tiawanese bench lathe next to this machine that sold for (are you sitting down) $1700.00 - but that machine was clean. Guess you have to look past the dirt.......

 

[morsetaper2]

JohnnyV wrote;

Original owner was Addressograph Multigraph

Intersting, we had a couple of AM 1250 press's in my high school print shop class. Then the summer I graduated from high school I worked in a small print shop running a couple presses, incl AM 1250's and a slightly larger press, an AM 2750?

I wonder if your lathe made any tooling that produced those presses.

 

[Dave G]

Johnny V-

When you said black, I thought you were going to follow that up with National Carbon Company, where I worked a couple of summers (Lakewood at border of Cleveland). Talk about black! Sometimes the air was so black from machining carbon and graphite you could not see from one side of the room to the other.

Dave G

 

[Johnny V]

I should have said "it was black from dirt and neglect". I purchased the machine at auction (bankruptcy auction) in 1994 from Hill Mfg. on Berea Rd. in Lakewood.

 

[sidecar580]

I have a 16 X 84 Im just moving into my new "TOY AND HOBBY SHOP"

John Fahnsetock
J&L Scraping Service Inc.
www.j-lscraping.com

 

[Jess10ee]

PW Steady Rest

Johnny V - man, is that one beautiful machine!

All -

I Don't have a P&W, but I do have a steady rest.

From the looks of the steady, I'd love the machine.

(Rest is from a B model 16", had a center height of 8", might be easy to bring it down to 7.25" to fit a C model 14" PW.

It's available, so if anyone is interested, send me a PM.

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d58/usjess/Steady/PW16BSteady.jpg

Thanks,
Jess

 

[Larry on Lake Superior]

P&W 16 inch Model C

16 inch Model C equipped with;
7.5HP 220V 3PH
2 inch spindle bore
D1-6 spindle nose
18 speed headstock-1000RPM max
30 inch center distance
built in threading stop on cross feed
single tooth clutch for threading without disengaging the half nuts
spring loaded rollers to ease tail stock movement
4 coats of flaking paint
chewed up steel tool slide
back lash eliminator on cross feed
It is ugly as sin but works fine. $900 from a grinding shop in W. Hartford that was doing the grinding on the Super Mics.

 

[andy pullen]

There's a Model B in a warehouse north of Philadelphia, PA. It's owned by a dealer and despite the peeling paint it looked really good. It's a 16"x 42" from the late '20s or early '30s. It has the friction bearing spindle like John said. It also has the collets, a 3 jaw and a 4 jaw and a taper attachment.

I can put anybody interested in touch with the owner. He's asking $1250 for it. The ways look really good....

No affiliation and usual disclaimers apply. I would just like to see somebody buy it...

Andy Pullen

 

[Stu Miller]

Does my Pratt & Whitney #1 Hand Screw Machine count?

It is actually in use now, turning out some brass drawer pulls for a machinists chest.

Stu

 

[Steve Jackson]

Pratt & Whitney Lathe Info need.

Does anyone else have a Pratt and Whitney line drive lathe like this. I took it out of a basement and rebuilt it.

 

[johnoder]

This is the 10" Toolmakers lathe with no power cross feed. Sam Bear (deceased?) owned one in Pennsauken NJ

 

[GTD]

Appreciation

It's funny how, with time, things often come full circle...

My Father dragged home a 10" P&W over fifty years ago. It's the same toolmakers model as Steve has pictured but it was in rough shape. Let's just say the "patina" was beginning to grow over the fine machine finish and detailing. He fabricated an angle iron frame to support a 1/2 hp motor and lay shaft over the pulleys to effect a drive. This was in Philadelphia - across the Delaware River from Pennsauken, NJ.
Thirty years ago I transported that lathe to New England where it rested for a year or so before I decided it was too limited for me and I sold it at a home auction. Likely it's been scrapped since then - but I often think how cool it would be if I still had it and could revitalize it to the standard that Steve's is in!

 

[johnoder]

A scan of this November 1923 four page brochure can be emailed to anyone that cares to PM me with a good email address.

 

[gregoryd]

1918 pratt whitney lathe

I picked this up today from a friend. It was re-scraped 30 years ago and moved into his basement, but never used. Since I'm a sucker for old heavy things - it's now in my garage. It has a tag on it that says it was bought in 1918 for $1466 (equal to $22,500 today).

I'm also interested in any literature people have - or rebuild pictures that they have of a similar lathe.

 

[johnoder]

Welcome to forum Greg. It is the 10" Toolmakers lathe. Hopefully you have the tall pile of change gears. I'll email the brochure scans. For that money in 1918 you could buy three new Model T roadsters and a bunch of boxes of fine cigars.

John Oder

 

[sidecar580]

I have a 16 X 84 Im just moving into my new "TOY AND HOBBY SHOP"

John Fahnsetock
J&L Scraping Service Inc.
www.j-lscraping.com

 

[gregoryd]

another one . . ..

I picked this up on CL today. I thought it was a 10" toolmaker like the one I posted above (with updated picture). I almost died when I saw it, it is huge. The chip pan is 2' X 7'-9". The headstock is over 24" long. All together it weighs 2800 #. Just the bed and chip pan on the trailer was 1700 #. It has the number M1383, no. 2972 on it. Anybody have any information?

 

[morsetaper2]

It has the number M1383, no. 2972 on it. Anybody have any information?

My S/N reference book lists for model M1383 this data:

14" lathe L, C.,

Last s/n for year 1919 shows #2888
Last s/n for year 1927 shows #3022

Perhaps John Oder, or someone else knows what L & C mean?

 

[PaulM]

Hey Gregoryd

Is that the one on CL that was listed for $50? I saw it and posted it in the for sale section figuring it would be more likly to find a home here. Its actually still listed I just checked

Paul