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Anyone have a 10ee stop rod for sale?

lectrician1

Hot Rolled
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Mar 6, 2012
Location
Las Vegas
I need a carriage stop rod for a 1947 10ee on which I am working. Square Dial. Anyone have one they want to sell?
Thanks
Rich
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rimcanyon

Diamond
Joined
Sep 28, 2002
Location
Salinas, CA USA
I need a carriage stop rod for a 1947 10ee on which I am working. Square Dial. Anyone have one they want to sell?
Thanks
Rich
Send me a PM.

If you can find one for a larger Monarch it would probably work; i.e. the only difference is the length, diameter of the handle and bar and the knurling are the same.
 

rimcanyon

Diamond
Joined
Sep 28, 2002
Location
Salinas, CA USA
Hard to tell, it might be reasonable $, and then again maybe not. That said if we had a DWG, and a stick of O-1, the rest is EZ.

The design is very simple: the shaft is ¾", knurled 4" at the end. The knob is 1.237" dia. and 1.25" long. The inside corner of the knob has a .125" bevel, the outside corner has a 3/16" bevel, the knurled end has a 1/16" bevel. The knob is a press fit. On the 1940 KOBar, the knurling is a diamond pattern, .070" pitch. On the 1950's bar the knurling is a straight pattern with a .040" pitch. OAL is 26 5/16". The knurling does not have sharp corners, i.e. it is turned down to .755" after knurling.
 

rimcanyon

Diamond
Joined
Sep 28, 2002
Location
Salinas, CA USA
One more detail on the construction of the knock out bar: the diameter of the shaft where the knob is pressed on is .625". If that is not clear, here is a photo:

IMG_1297.jpg
 

Cyclotronguy

Stainless
Joined
Sep 21, 2005
Location
Northern California
Again a pretty simple part, we just need a "print". And that said the folks at Monarch are pretty unpredictable on pricing. I needed a set of stoppers for a 10ee turret.

The set up fee to make (none on the shelf) was several thousand $ and the lot price something like $750 each. More common parts quite reasonable.
 

rke[pler

Diamond
Joined
Feb 19, 2002
Location
Peralta, NM USA
Again a pretty simple part, we just need a "print". And that said the folks at Monarch are pretty unpredictable on pricing.

Less simple than you might initially think. I notices once that the 1/2" notches were ground and so I set it up for checking. They were as close to .5000 as I could easily measure.

I needed a set of stoppers for a 10ee turret.

The set up fee to make (none on the shelf) was several thousand $ and the lot price something like $750 each. More common parts quite reasonable.

The adjustable stops like this?:

10ee_turret_stop2.jpg


It might be that the spec is to make it from cast iron and they don't have a foundry easily accessible anymore. But I'm often surprised by the 'one-off' pricing from them.
 

Cyclotronguy

Stainless
Joined
Sep 21, 2005
Location
Northern California
rke[pler

Yeah those "stoppers" I back engineered one Al then ordered up some durabar to make the rest. Have yet to make the cutter for the dovetail, but it's on the too-doo list
 

rke[pler

Diamond
Joined
Feb 19, 2002
Location
Peralta, NM USA
rke[pler

Yeah those "stoppers" I back engineered one Al then ordered up some durabar to make the rest. Have yet to make the cutter for the dovetail, but it's on the too-doo list

Check with AB Tools, they have decent dovetail cutters and can hook you up with one in the right angle, likely from stock.
 

Cyclotronguy

Stainless
Joined
Sep 21, 2005
Location
Northern California
It's been awhile since I looked at the drawings, as I recall is was 65 degrees, thanks for the heads up.... I should re-visit that sooner rather than later.

AB Tools is about 20 min from the house!
 

rke[pler

Diamond
Joined
Feb 19, 2002
Location
Peralta, NM USA
It's been awhile since I looked at the drawings, as I recall is was 65 degrees, thanks for the heads up.... I should re-visit that sooner rather than later.

AB Tools is about 20 min from the house!

I get 60 degrees looking at mine. The bottom is about 5/8" wide so you could probably get a standard HSS cutter in there, but I have to say that I do like the AB Tool cutters.
 








 
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