inventor has CAM?Should be Inventor vs NX if those are your two vendor choices
inventor has CAM?Should be Inventor vs NX if those are your two vendor choices
Who the hell ends up at fusion or NX when its time for new/different CAM? That is so "stupid" it screams troll.
Hexagon has been buying a bunch of CAD/CAM/CAE/PLM/FEA type companies. They seem pretty intent on making a full package offering and becoming a major player in the space. Course I've never heard of anyone actually using their CAD package, but it wouldn't surprise me if they either throw alot of money at developing it or if they buy another more mature CAD product. I'd be pretty optimistic on the future of Esprit. Course they also own Edgecam so who knows.- Esprit is now owned by Hexagon. Who knows how that will wind up?
You mean outside most of the aerospace industry and like half the automotive industry?- CATIA makes NX look like a bargain and has zero user base outside of a handful of Fortune 500 companies and their captive suppliers.
were you aware that Siemens is pushing NX-X pretty hard? their own cloud offering.Hexagon has been buying a bunch of CAD/CAM/CAE/PLM/FEA type companies. They seem pretty intent on making a full package offering and becoming a major player in the space. Course I've never heard of anyone actually using their CAD package, but it wouldn't surprise me if they either throw alot of money at developing it or if they buy another more mature CAD product. I'd be pretty optimistic on the future of Esprit. Course they also own Edgecam so who knows.
You mean outside most of the aerospace industry and like half the automotive industry?
Unless there is some enterprise version of Fusion that doesn't rely on Autodesk's cloud, I don't see it as a competitor to NX.
Yep I imagine they make alot more money selling it as a service, and a subscription cost is probably more palatable for some users (even if its alot more expensive over time). I was surprised to hear that its not ITAR compliant which makes it unusable for alot of folks.were you aware that Siemens is pushing NX-X pretty hard? their own cloud offering.
A little bit OT, but I don't understand why people seem to think NX has a steeper learning curve than Fusion360 (or MasterCAM, or any other CAD software for that matter). NX just has a greater wealth of available features/commands, but it still has the same 8 (10, 12?) most commonly used commands and workflow as every other program that's been made in the past decade... At worst it just has a different shaped icon and is 3 inches to the right on your screen, and you can always customize your layout.
If anything NX is easier to use because it usually requires fewer keystrokes/clicks to complete a command.
You mean outside most of the aerospace industry and like half the automotive industry?
OT but...I hear you. Being a long time NX user, since UG 9 or 10, I recall when UGS bought SDRC (Ideas) and there was a roadmap to kill them off after transitioning Ideas users over the course of 3-4 releases. I think that may have been where NX naming came in; it was supposed to be a new name so Ideas users wouldn't feel like they were being sucked up via Mega-Corp-Osmosis....and kill SE. Supporting two packages - one of them always crippled because it can't ever be allowed to cannibalize the crown jewel, is management bozo dumb dumb extreme.
how does one do CAM without ANY cad work?OT but...I hear you. Being a long time NX user, since UG 9 or 10, I recall when UGS bought SDRC (Ideas) and there was a roadmap to kill them off after transitioning Ideas users over the course of 3-4 releases. I think that may have been where NX naming came in; it was supposed to be a new name so Ideas users wouldn't feel like they were being sucked up via Mega-Corp-Osmosis.
The way NX licensing is super flexible and sites can purchase only the number of cad, cam, and cae licenses they actually need, makes it more attractive than ever. There is absolutely no need whatsoever to have node-locked uber bundles that costs $36K+. Those days are long gone thankfully and if you look at NX cam-only licenses it's virtually a no brainer when you compare NX cam to mid-tier cam software.
You would be *shocked* at how many shops think the junk CAM built into MasterCAM is just fine.how does one do CAM without ANY cad work?
oh, i wont... and i'm unfortunately way too aware of how horrible it is, lol.You would be *shocked* at how many shops think the junk CAM built into MasterCAM is just fine.
Yea, I am aware of all that. My comment was pretty "tongue in cheek". You know exactly where I stand, LOL.They are the only two relevant and thriving CAD/CAM packages. Everyone else is currently lost in the woods to the point where I wouldn't bet on any of them besides F360 and NX.
- SolidWorks w/CAM is in a bad place. DSS doesn't have a cohesive strategy and SW growth has stalled (doesn't help that the feature set stalled years ago). Any survival of SolidWorks is 100% based on flywheel momentum and no on anything good DSS has had done to it in almost a decade.
- Inventor is a dead product walking. Just like PartMaker and Feature CAM. The Fusion team is stripping all of these other packages for parts and incrementally shifting resources away. This is a statement of fact, not an opinion.
- Esprit is now owned by Hexagon. Who knows how that will wind up?
- MasterCAM is now owned by a cutting tool company. Who knows how that will wind up?
- CATIA makes NX look like a bargain and has zero user base outside of a handful of Fortune 500 companies and their captive suppliers.
- SolidEdge is a dumb offering. Ok, it is fine CAD... sure. Who cares? The CAM is NX and what Siemens should do is strip TeamCenter integration from NX, lower the price to make it the SMB path for NX, and kill SE. Supporting two packages - one of them always crippled because it can't ever be allowed to cannibalize the crown jewel, is management bozo dumb dumb extreme.
I know, you just love that Autodesk. Total Carl Bass simp!Yea, I am aware of all that. My comment was pretty "tongue in cheek". You know exactly where I stand, LOL.
On two occasions in the past, I had the ProE folks attempt to do some common modelling tasks that I had at the time that involved projecting curves out in space onto 3-d surfaces, then doing things like subdividing and offsetting those curves on the surface---those are the types of things UG/NX could do that couldn't be done by other programs
You would be *shocked* at how many shops think the junk CAM built into MasterCAM is just fine.
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