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john.k

Diamond
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Dec 21, 2012
Location
Brisbane Qld Australia
Yep housing is a problem..zero vacancy rates ,very high rents .....lot of talk about it ,nothing done...typical for here......the crisis could be cured overnight by banning BnB style rentals.....but even socialist governments need a lotta money ,just like capitalists .....so nothing done ,ever.
 

Damjan

Plastic
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Mar 27, 2023
Yep housing is a problem..zero vacancy rates ,very high rents .....lot of talk about it ,nothing done...typical for here......the crisis could be cured overnight by banning BnB style rentals.....but even socialist governments need a lotta money ,just like capitalists .....so nothing done ,ever.
To be honest if I need to pay 50% or more of the salary just to pay rent and bills then food and needed stuff on top of that it is not worth it for me that way , since it is the same here.
 
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Location
Manchester, England
I have IELTS on c1 level that should be accepted in all English speaking countries. As for USA I am not that drawn to it , but regarding how hard to get there I am familiar , thank you for the input though.
Our friend loves it in Australia. He’ll never return to the UK. He went out there about a year before Covid erupted and he’s had three promotions in that time. We really miss him, any IT problems we had, he’d sort them out in a flash.

Me, I could never get on with the wild life out there. Too many things that would like to kill you.

By the way, if you’re thinking of coming to the UK. I wouldn’t bother if I were you.

Regards Tyrone.
 
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Damjan

Plastic
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Our friend loves it in Australia. He’ll never return to the UK. He went out there about a year before Covid erupted and he’s had three promotions in that time. We really miss him, any IT problems we had, he’d sort them out in a flash.

Me, I could never get on with the wild life out there. Too many things that would like to kill you.

By the way, if you’re thinking of coming to the UK. I wouldn’t bother if I were you.

Regards Tyrone.
Same feelings about UK as USA , would love to visit it though one day since the history is very rich.
As for Aussies and danger of wildlife , I am not too worried about it
 

john.k

Diamond
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Dec 21, 2012
Location
Brisbane Qld Australia
I worked with a guy who hated it here .....he couldnt stand the sunny weather ,the cloudless blue sky was too much day after day ,so he went back.....which meant he was no longer a 10 pound pom ,and had to pay back his full fare ......but it doesnt end there ,he was back in six months ,because he couldnt stand the cold rainy winter.....so he had to pay full fare again.
 
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Manchester, England
I worked with a guy who hated it here .....he couldnt stand the sunny weather ,the cloudless blue sky was too much day after day ,so he went back.....which meant he was no longer a 10 pound pom ,and had to pay back his full fare ......but it doesnt end there ,he was back in six months ,because he couldnt stand the cold rainy winter.....so he had to pay full fare again.
I worked with a guy who emigrated to New Zealand three times. I think he stayed the third time.

Regards Tyrone
 

Damjan

Plastic
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Mar 27, 2023
Damjan, what is your perception of the USA that removes it from your list of possibles?
My perception , way the taxes are done , cost of living , way school is done , healthcare , how people generally sue for minor things , and so on. I know it sounds like I hate USA , but I can assure you it is not the case , it's more like you do you , but it is not for me.
Now I know that many things generally really depend on the state , but then again the things that are not for me outweigh the things that are
 

alek95

Aluminum
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Sep 23, 2022
My perception , way the taxes are done , cost of living , way school is done , healthcare , how people generally sue for minor things , and so on. I know it sounds like I hate USA , but I can assure you it is not the case , it's more like you do you , but it is not for me.
Now I know that many things generally really depend on the state , but then again the things that are not for me outweigh the things that are
None of these things are actually a major problem once you get used to these things. It is mainly stereotypes. Nobody has time or money to sue for minor things. That is something you only see in shows and TV.

The main reason that Serbs (and exyu folk in general) tend to be unhappy in America is because of cultural difference. I know of many people who have moved back because they could not get used to the lifestyle of working non stop, with almost no vacation days. The society is just different.

But at the same time, I know many Serbs here who haven't been back to Serbia since 20 years ago, because they hated life in Serbia so much.
 

Damjan

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None of these things are actually a major problem once you get used to these things. It is mainly stereotypes. Nobody has time or money to sue for minor things. That is something you only see in shows and TV.

The main reason that Serbs (and exyu folk in general) tend to be unhappy in America is because of cultural difference. I know of many people who have moved back because they could not get used to the lifestyle of working non stop, with almost no vacation days. The society is just different.

But at the same time, I know many Serbs here who haven't been back to Serbia since 20 years ago, because they hated life in Serbia so much.
My work hours in Serbia were on average 240 hours per month , I doubt that the workload is the problem ( aside for lazy people ) , however culture shock is a real thing. I do know a lot of Americans from various states , and I do have few family friends that did make the move , but combining thier stories , my goals , views etc I just know it is not a fit. Generally it is easier to put up several steriotypes ( that are not baseless) as a good enough reason for explaning why I would skip on it.
Doing 60 hours weeks only to come home and drop to the bed is not really something I want to do for next 30 years
 

604Pook

Cast Iron
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Sep 14, 2022
My work hours in Serbia were on average 240 hours per month , I doubt that the workload is the problem ( aside for lazy people ) , however culture shock is a real thing. I do know a lot of Americans from various states , and I do have few family friends that did make the move , but combining thier stories , my goals , views etc I just know it is not a fit. Generally it is easier to put up several steriotypes ( that are not baseless) as a good enough reason for explaning why I would skip on it.
Doing 60 hours weeks only to come home and drop to the bed is not really something I want to do for next 30 years

Then you definitely don't want to move to Canada. Rent is high, houses are very expensive in the major cities and anywhere within an hour or 2 drive in to the city area.
our medical system is extremely broken, I haven't had a family doctor in years. Waited 3 years to see a specialist for a simple but painful bicep tendon issue, which ended up ripping in half before I got anywhere near surgery and never did get fixed. We pay more then half our income in taxes and they keep raising the taxes even more. Current government doesn't even like Canadians, and is destroying the middle class with every move they make. Business red tape for many km's and a new requirement for you to comply with weekly.

I love my country and where I live. It's just being ran into the ground and its seemingly on purpose.
 

Damjan

Plastic
Joined
Mar 27, 2023
Then you definitely don't want to move to Canada. Rent is high, houses are very expensive in the major cities and anywhere within an hour or 2 drive in to the city area.
our medical system is extremely broken, I haven't had a family doctor in years. Waited 3 years to see a specialist for a simple but painful bicep tendon issue, which ended up ripping in half before I got anywhere near surgery and never did get fixed. We pay more then half our income in taxes and they keep raising the taxes even more. Current government doesn't even like Canadians, and is destroying the middle class with every move they make. Business red tape for many km's and a new requirement for you to comply with weekly.

I love my country and where I live. It's just being ran into the ground and its seemingly on purpose.
I have a very close friend that moved to Canada in 2019 in Belleville , he works as CNC machinist and his salary pays rent, bills and feeds his family of 4 ( with him included ) , and he still can save money on the side , not much , but he can. Here it is impossible to do something like this. Now I know that Toronto is very expensive , same as some other locations , but towns like Belleville are very solid options
 
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Location
Manchester, England
I can’t speak for the USA but in the UK excessive overtime was more or less expected in the engineering industry. A full week + 3x2 hrs overtime in the evenings + Saturday and Sunday morning were the usual hours of work. Certainly everywhere I worked. Maybe you need to move to another line of work entirely.
It’s not good. The old saying - “ All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy “ is very true.

Regards Tyrone
 

Seesecurity

Aluminum
Joined
Jun 20, 2017
Location
Brisbane Australia
I worked with a guy who hated it here .....he couldnt stand the sunny weather ,the cloudless blue sky was too much day after day ,so he went back.....which meant he was no longer a 10 pound pom ,and had to pay back his full fare ......but it doesnt end there ,he was back in six months ,because he couldnt stand the cold rainy winter.....so he had to pay full fare again.
Had friends who moved back and forth to the UK three times, wife was homesick and missed her family, husband loved it here, they ended up divorcing and living in separate countries.
 

Damjan

Plastic
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Mar 27, 2023
I can’t speak for the USA but in the UK excessive overtime was more or less expected in the engineering industry. A full week + 3x2 hrs overtime in the evenings + Saturday and Sunday morning were the usual hours of work. Certainly everywhere I worked. Maybe you need to move to another line of work entirely.
It’s not good. The old saying - “ All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy “ is very true.

Regards Tyrone
I really don't mind the work , as long as you see results behind it, and if you are compansated for it. My problem in Serbia is overtime had the same rate as normal hours and it went " under the table" so it is not even counted for retirment.
Also working 7 days a week for months on end means the company should hire more people. I understand that situations come up like meeting deadlines or doing repair work etc where you would be 12+ hours daily on the job , but having that as standard is just making 1 person doing work that more people should be hired for
 








 
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