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cushion forklift steer tire detached from integral rim

tomjelly

Stainless
Joined
Aug 26, 2007
Location
GA
Getting closer to finishing the rehab on my 2 clark lifts, one steer tire has come loose from the inner steel ring it was bonded to (the press on ring is still intact on the wheel) I've cleaned the inside of the tire and the rim exterior and ground some "tooth" on both, was going to bond with 3m 08609 automotive urethane windshield adhesive, but I see the stuff is $42 a tube: https://www.napaonline.com/en/p/MMM08609 Is there an industrial alternative product that does the same job without the "car insurance is paying for it" price premium? Could take 2 tubes to do this....
 

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Strostkovy

Titanium
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Oct 29, 2017
I recall shoe glue working great for sticking tire pieces together, but I don't know how well it bonds to metal. I'd be concerned with any adhesive holding up if the tire is a loose fit on the ring.
How much is pair of new tires?
 

tomjelly

Stainless
Joined
Aug 26, 2007
Location
GA
Not doing new tires at this time, maybe down the road a bit. I've found a better deal, Sika p2g at $25 for 2 tubes, I've got a message in to them to see if that or another product of theirs would be better...
 

bigais

Stainless
Joined
Sep 29, 2003
Location
Etters Pa USA
IMO, it's not worth rolling that truck over when that once hunk of badly bonded rubber decides to roll off again and gives you a few added inches of unneeded steering articulation as you take the ride of your life and perhaps a pedestrian!
 

tomjelly

Stainless
Joined
Aug 26, 2007
Location
GA
Not only will this truck never exceed 1mph, it will never move more than 15 feet at a time. I'll also be welding an annular retainer ring around the inner and outer sidewall to retain the tire even if the adhesive fails. I'd just like it NOT to fail.
 

Strostkovy

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Oct 29, 2017
Not only will this truck never exceed 1mph, it will never move more than 15 feet at a time. I'll also be welding an annular retainer ring around the inner and outer sidewall to retain the tire even if the adhesive fails. I'd just like it NOT to fail.
If that's truly all it will be doing, I'd consider just running in screws between the ring and tire on each side
 

Garwood

Diamond
Joined
Oct 10, 2009
Location
Oregon
This all seems like a lot of work to avoid new tires. How much are new tires? Got any forklift part out dealer places nearby? Even Craigslist and Marketplace regularly have forklift tires for sale cheap.
 

tomjelly

Stainless
Joined
Aug 26, 2007
Location
GA
Screws: Good idea, but that ring isn't coming off with the equipment I have here. New tires: if a deal comes along, but vs a few oz. of some sort of adhesive not attractive... and the tires are not bad other than the adhesion issue.
 

Strostkovy

Titanium
Joined
Oct 29, 2017
Screws: Good idea, but that ring isn't coming off with the equipment I have here. New tires: if a deal comes along, but vs a few oz. of some sort of adhesive not attractive... and the tires are not bad other than the adhesion issue.
Just slip the tires on the ring while it's on the forklift and then screw it
 

johfoster

Cast Iron
Joined
Dec 15, 2016
That little cushion tire probably can't be more than $100 new on ebay. Seems like a lot of wasted time trying to fix that junk one if you ask me. If it is still a tight fit why not just tack the rings on to hold it in place, and skip the adhesive all together?
 

tomjelly

Stainless
Joined
Aug 26, 2007
Location
GA
2 tubes of Sika p2g were only $12 ea, I'm going to see how the application goes and add the annular rings on inner and outer edges if I think I need them. These tires are $300+ and I need both rears
 

m16ty

Hot Rolled
Joined
May 11, 2016
Let us know how it works out. I have my doubts of some sort to glue holding up.
Usually what causes this is the tire rubber gets soft and it gets to working between the tire and the steel ring. I have my doubts of anything holding it at that point.
 

tomjelly

Stainless
Joined
Aug 26, 2007
Location
GA
I did the first tire & let it sit for about 4 days before bolting it back on and it seems to be holding fine, I did not weld on a steel retaining ring as I want to see if the sika p2g alone will work. I set the rim inside face down on cardboard, cut the tube tip and squeezed it flat in a vise so it would extrude a ribbon, smeared a thin layer of p2g at the top of the rim, started the tire on about an inch, then inserted and twisted a screwdriver every inch or so around the wheel tire interface perimeter and put a squeeze of it in at each spot on each side of the screwdriver tip, which made plenty of room to get the nozzle in ang gave full coverage all around. Then I tapped it down another inch and did the same and repeated until it was all the way on. Then I made sure I had squeeze out all around on inner and outer sidewall faces and cleaned up the sidewall with the putty knife. The uncured sealant also acted as a lube to make getting the tire slid on very easy with a rubber mallet. There was plenty left over from one tube, enough to fill any small cuts or chunks in the tire. The material is very close to the same hardness as the tire, and I don't think it's going anywhere, but we'll see. I've driven it around a bit and it hasn't moved at all, and the tire I haven't done is moving all over the place, so I took it off today, prepped the tire and wheel and will bond it tomorrow.
 

john.k

Diamond
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Dec 21, 2012
Location
Brisbane Qld Australia
I stuck the soles back on my safety boots with Sikaflex,so its certainly got a track record..........One time ,someone gave me carton of some super strong grey stuff ,he said it was too strong for the application ,and was ripping fibreglass boat hulls apart ........I used it as sealant on the front sheetmetal of my IH truck ,later I took out the screws ,and the sealer was holding the sheet metal so it wouldnt come apart.
 








 
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