Ebay's latest personal info harvest

[DavidScott]

What service did you use for that? Can customers place orders/pay through it?

I made my own with Wordpress and Woocommerce for the shopping cart. Works fine for online orders and I never get phone calls for orders, just email notifications that they are made, all for the price of my host and a domain name. I pay around $85 a year for it all, plus Paypal fees as they are the CC portal.

 

[snowman]

It sucks. I used to sell a lot of stuff on eBay, then they made it like walmart for used goods. Now it's not even walmart...or maybe it is, I don't shop at walmart.

Unfortunately, I've still got A LOT of surplus tooling I need to get rid of. I'm not sure if I'll just dump what I can't sell here or not.

Last thing I heard about eBay is if you don't pay them for sponsored listings, your stuff simply doesn't sell.

It's getting to the point where I'm just going to build a website and buy advertising from facebook.

 

[Freedommachine]

Well, it was a nice thread while it lasted.

Can you pm me your website? I'm always interested in new sources.

FWIW; the reason eBay is asking for that information is to comply with banking regulations. Crypto brokers do the same thing. They will let you buy cryptocurrency and they will hold it for you but you cannot remove it from their platform without sending them your D/L.

If you read ebay's old TOS - the one that brought in the SSN and bank account requirements - it would show that eBay makes the sale and issues you a "credit" to be deposited to your checking account in the form of USD.

They were NOT holding or managing YOUR funds. The funds belong to eBay until they decide to pay you. This being the case, they have no legal requirement to comply with banking regulations and ebay is now acting is a self regulating manner.

Companies take advantage of government regulations to implement more control over their sphere of influence. Not their market.... Their sphere of influence. There is a big difference between the two.

I left ebay when they tried to pull the "give us a bank account" b.s. Although I will admit that I still buy a considerable amount of my tooling there.

I would much rather compile a list of individual websites for vendors who have chosen to leave ebay and give them my business instead.

If you have something I need; if your prices are low and your shipping is fast; you will have my business on a regular basis.

 

[Freedommachine]

It's getting to the point where I'm just going to build a website and buy advertising from facebook.

I don't shop at Walmart either and I'm not on Facebook... But If you start a site, please send me a link and I'll add you to the list.

**A list doesn't exist yet so please nobody pm me asking for it***

 

[dalmatiangirl61]

if your prices are low and your shipping is fast; you will have my business on a regular basis.

So you want premium service, at rock bottom pricing? My biggest gripe with ebay was it was a race to the bottom with everyone trying to price their items just below everyone else's, I tried offering better service (guaranteed same day shipping if order placed by a set time), and 60 day warranty, but still lost sales to the cheap sellers with "no returns" policy. When chinese sellers can sell something for less than it would cost me to ship it, how can Americans compete with that.

If I can't make a buck selling something, what is my motivation to sell?

 

[Superbowl]

When Ebay set their new policies last year I went to the bank and set up a new savings account with only $50 in it because I don't want them to have access to my real accounts with high balances. I also use that account for PayPal too. When I buy I use the credit card option so this is just a place for them to deposit money for things I sell. Then I take the money from sales out just leaving the $50 balance so they can never take large sums from me.

 

[snowman]

So you want premium service, at rock bottom pricing? My biggest gripe with ebay was it was a race to the bottom with everyone trying to price their items just below everyone else's, I tried offering better service (guaranteed same day shipping if order placed by a set time), and 60 day warranty, but still lost sales to the cheap sellers with "no returns" policy. When chinese sellers can sell something for less than it would cost me to ship it, how can Americans compete with that.

If I can't make a buck selling something, what is my motivation to sell?

Exactly.

It all went to shit when it became retailers out of China selling things with shipping across the Pacific for less than what I can ship for, all subsidized by the Chinese gov't.

Ebay just loved it though, because they got to keep 10% of all the sales.

 

[Freedommachine]

So you want premium service, at rock bottom pricing?

Is that what I said?
No, it isn't and you know it.
Some people are always looking for a reason to be a dick, do not be one of them.

As a customer; I buy tooling on eBay because I can find good deals shipped in a reasonable timeframe; that is the truth. Although I will say that shipping speed is not nearly as important as price.

For example; 2 weeks ago I needed a 1/8" woodruff keyseat cutter. They were about $45-$180 depending where I looked. I jumped on ebay (and ignoring all the made in India, tool shaped objects) they were still $35ish or more for a single name brand cutter.

I found a listing for (4) 1950's era NOS Morse brand cutters for $55 and free shipping. I offered the seller $45 through the "make an offer" button and he accepted.

Most of that stuff comes from auctions and the sellers are just looking to make a fair profit. Inserts are the same way... If I wanted to pay $120 for a pack of inserts, I'd just call up the local supply store. On ebay; the same pack might be $65. I can send the seller an offer of $500 for 10 packs and most of the time they are happy to accept.

I save the contact info for sellers I use frequently and I will email them with an order request so they don't get hit with eBay fees. I try to always place orders of $100+ on anything that I can in order to make it easier on the seller. I've been there, processing $32, $13, $40 orders sucks - especially if that's all you have for the day.

So yeah, I don't like paying retail for tooling when there are other options and I'd like to have it delivered within a week of placing the order. If that makes me a shit customer? Well than so be it.

 

[EndlessWaltz]

Thanks for the tip. I wont use ebay either now.

 

[moonlight machine]

O FFS this has nothing to do with Biden
It is not even the gov't at all

The 1099 deal, banks and everyone else has to report every transaction over 600.00 to the IRS is in the "inflation reduction act" as is the 80,000 new IRS agents to keep track of it all. So yes biden signed the bill though he probably does not remember doing it.

 

[Ultradog MN]

f'in A it is
So much BS, and people looked at me funny years back when I didn't want a loyalty card

I am so tired of being hounded by retailers for their rewards/loyalty cards.
Or "Are you going to put that on your Home Depot card"?
Grrr.
When I grump about it the cashier usually says, "I'm just doing my job".
I always tell them they used that excuse at the Nuremburg Trials.
They usually don't have a clue what that means.

 

[GregSY]

Milland, your diatribes are so treadworn and baseless they're not even worth addressing....I'd rather go argue with a brain-dead dope fiend. At least he has a reason for having no gray matter.

This DOES have a tie-in to Biden. As stated, HE is the doof who adopted the $600 level on purchases. It is for that reason that Ebay is wanting to increase how far they peek up your skirt. First, the new law then companies like Ebay have lawyers and accountants who seek to protect themselves at your expense. It's pretty simple. Sure, Ebay will abuse these new rules to their benefit - but it's Biden who put the rules in place.

Effectively, the government is doing what they do best - turning companies into tax collection agencies. In response, companies have all day long to figure out how to pass that burden on to the little guy. Well, it's one of the things governments do best....

 

[gustafson]

Milland, your diatribes are so treadworn and baseless they're not even worth addressing....I'd rather go argue with a brain-dead dope fiend. At least he has a reason for having no gray matter.

This DOES have a tie-in to Biden. As stated, HE is the doof who adopted the $600 level on purchases. It is for that reason that Ebay is wanting to increase how far they peek up your skirt. First, the new law then companies like Ebay have lawyers and accountants who seek to protect themselves at your expense. It's pretty simple. Sure, Ebay will abuse these new rules to their benefit - but it's Biden who put the rules in place.

Effectively, the government is doing what they do best - turning companies into tax collection agencies. In response, companies have all day long to figure out how to pass that burden on to the little guy. Well, it's one of the things governments do best....

Th whole managed account thing, needing your info etc predates Biden, So why not blame his predecessor?

 

[Milland]

Milland, your diatribes are so treadworn and baseless they're not even worth addressing....I'd rather go argue with a brain-dead dope fiend.

It would make it easier to win an argument...

 

[Scottl]

f'in A it is
So much BS, and people looked at me funny years back when I didn't want a loyalty card

Interestingly enough, not long before those cards started to appear everywhere I read where a college professor suggested that the government should for a short time restrict people's shopping to a few stores they normally visited so their purchases could be tracked and recorded.

Coincidence? I wonder, and I also wonder if the first cards weren't subsidized by outside funding, either by government or an NGO.

 

[gustafson]

Interestingly enough, not long before those cards started to appear everywhere I read where a college professor suggested that the government should for a short time restrict people's shopping to a few stores they normally visited so their purchases could be tracked and recorded.

Coincidence? I wonder, and I also wonder if the first cards weren't subsidized by outside funding, either by government or an NGO.

C'mon Scott, some kind of backup for that wild stuff would be nice

 

[Freedommachine]

It would make it easier to win an argument...

Ever try to argue with a meth head? They'll carry on your conversation, 2 in their head and 1 with the dog across the street all at the same time. Lol

 

[bosmos_j]

A blurb from my chat with them yesterday:

"We always destroy documents after we've reviewed them. The data and documents you submit will be processed and collected by eBay in accordance with privacy laws, solely for the purposes related to the verification of users, and kept for a period not longer than necessary, as provided by Law 196 / 2003. eBay reserves the right to verify with third parties interested in the information and documents you submit."

That last sentence reads to me they have the right to sell it, which I imagine is their whole point. They could ask for a W-9 and be done, but no.

 

[jim rozen]

"This DOES have a tie-in to Biden. As stated, HE"

Diatribe again. Snore.

 

[bosmos_j]

Can you pm me your website? I'm always interested in new sources.

I don't sell end mills and whatnot. If you google cnc pen marking tool you'll find me. Most of my customers report finding me through google image search. I'm going to try instagram at some point and do more on youtube. I'm going to come out with a couple new thing that are hobbyist targeted, so was hoping to use ebay to get them going.

Ebay just loved it though, because they got to keep 10% of all the sales.

More like 15% now that they booted paypal. Funny, when I cancelled the last order, where payout was on hold until I uploaded xyz, the net cancel amount was not $0.00, it was $0.30 deducted from my bank account. Just to remind me I suppose..