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Feeler HV-1650 Mill Parts Layout

ADHDtech

Plastic
Joined
Nov 7, 2020
So we have a Feeler HV-1650 Mill in our shop and a couple months ago the clamp force started dropping and is at about half of what it normally is. This is a fairly hot machine at my shop so I won't be able to have it down for more than 2 days at most. When I went to look in the parts manual so I could pre-order parts and see any type of print to know what to prep for, I got nothing. There is no parts break down of the draw bar or clamp/unclamp system, so I can't pre-order parts or see what I'm getting into. It looks like it has the same type of booster cylinder setup as a Yama Seiki BM-1200 mill but beyond that I can't see anything. I've contacted Feeler, Methods, and Maruka but Methods asked Feeler and all I got was a picture of the booster cylinder which I can already see from the outside, Feeler told me to contact Methods, and Maruka is contacting Methods seeing if they can come up with anything. If anyone knows anything about this thing that could help me out that would be great! I don't know if my only option is to call someone in, but how would they know what parts to order? Including pictures from my parts manual of what it shows me, by far the worst parts book I have ever seen.
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Alloy Mcgraw

Titanium
Joined
Aug 6, 2010
Location
CT, USA
I don't know anything about these machines but maybe a call to CNC Systems in NH might yield some results.

https://cncsystems.com/

I'm not certain they still have the line, but they did recently(FFG, I think they still carry DMC). The guys there are helpful with my YCM machines even though they no longer carry them.

At a minimum maybe they can point you in the right direction. Hope this helps
 

barbter

Diamond
Joined
Oct 27, 2007
Location
On Tour...
Surely....it's disc springs/Belleville washers that are breaking/collapsing, and thus losing your toolholder retention force?
 

ADHDtech

Plastic
Joined
Nov 7, 2020
I don't have any detailed drawings that I can find, that drawing I included that has an arrow pointing to the spindle is supposed to be for the Direct Drive Spindle Head Assembly.
 

ADHDtech

Plastic
Joined
Nov 7, 2020
Surely....it's disc springs/Belleville washers that are breaking/collapsing, and thus losing your toolholder retention force?

Thats what I'm figuring unless some bolts broke somewhere or something came loose. I just can't have it down for more than 2 days so I'll need to have the parts here before I start and would be nice to know what I'm all getting into. I'm sure it's like all the others I've rebuilt but it's nice to know before hand.
 

ADHDtech

Plastic
Joined
Nov 7, 2020
So an update. Today I went down there to check on it during monthly PMs. There is oil coming from the unclamp cylinder muffler on the valve, so I have a leak in my unclamp cylinder. Also noticed the unclamp system seems to pull a bit crooked when in use.

When I went to check what it was at this month I go 1900. Maint. manual wants it at 850kg (1874). I asked the operator what she got last month and she said 2100... Soo somewhere between the operator and the PM maint. person the numbers switched from 2100 to 1200 :angry: So I guess I was reminded to always double check things.

However I am still having troubles finding any sort of print or parts layout for this machine. The closest I have got for support was from MAG-Ias who I guess is the main Feeler company in the States so I'm not sure why Feeler told me to contact Methods if Methods dropped them.
Still no end in site on getting part numbers or prints for the drawbar and springs/washers etc. Our company is never buying another one of these machines again. Over a month of asking and still no detailed drawing or parts layout.
 

ADHDtech

Plastic
Joined
Nov 7, 2020
I don't know anything about these machines but maybe a call to CNC Systems in NH might yield some results.

https://cncsystems.com/

I'm not certain they still have the line, but they did recently(FFG, I think they still carry DMC). The guys there are helpful with my YCM machines even though they no longer carry them.

At a minimum maybe they can point you in the right direction. Hope this helps

FYI: This company put me in contact with MAG-IAS, so thank you very much!
 








 
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