Maybe its better than other one i was lookkng at. Ownere have no clue qbout them.they are in closed down trans shop.smaller one looks interesting bigger one is too big for my garage
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Found 2 lathes near me.anyone reckognize what they are?
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L Vanice
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The smaller one has an Atlas badge on the headstock. It could be a 10" or a 12" swing. They are famous for being low end home shop quality, not terrible when new, but after more than 65 years of abuse certainly not worth much.
Larry
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Same answer I posted on the other, nearly duplicate, thread...
Man. Neither of those look appetizing. I don't necessarily recognize the make... but the type, yes. One's too small for any work you'd want a modicum of rigidity for, the other is a little bigger but it's a conehead plain bearing ancient machine that looks like probably a horror show as far as wear, and with a gorefest paintjob in a hole of a shop. Not a place I'd be excited to pull a machine out of.
What's your budget, and what's the largest work envelope you can see reasonably needing?
Man. Neither of those look appetizing. I don't necessarily recognize the make... but the type, yes. One's too small for any work you'd want a modicum of rigidity for, the other is a little bigger but it's a conehead plain bearing ancient machine that looks like probably a horror show as far as wear, and with a gorefest paintjob in a hole of a shop. Not a place I'd be excited to pull a machine out of.
What's your budget, and what's the largest work envelope you can see reasonably needing?
moonlight machine
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2000.00!!!! that guy has been smoking dope, they aren't worth 200.00
dalmatiangirl61
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The little one is an Atlas, it has Timken bearings, and is a change gear type, you physically have to change the gears to change feed rates or for threading. They are not the best lathe, and don't get much love here, but they are popular with the hobbyist crowd for several reasons #1 they are plentiful, #2 one person can disassemble them into manageable pieces to hand load into a hatchback, #3 they won't suck you in and kill you. Good little lathe to learn on, but limited on what they can do, some of us started there. I'd suggest getting something with a quick change gear box.
The second lathe might be a better option, it has a quick change gear box, its an old cone-head type, most likely babbitt bearings. If current owners just want it gone haggle them down, you might even try to offer to clean out the whole shop free of charge, haul the scrap to the dump for cash, haul both lathes home.
Edit: Looks like a tool post grinder in the box under the Atlas.
The second lathe might be a better option, it has a quick change gear box, its an old cone-head type, most likely babbitt bearings. If current owners just want it gone haggle them down, you might even try to offer to clean out the whole shop free of charge, haul the scrap to the dump for cash, haul both lathes home.
Edit: Looks like a tool post grinder in the box under the Atlas.
memphisjed
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Hard pass.
sfriedberg
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The seller is asking about 10 times what they are worth.
dalmatiangirl61
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And what is it going to cost them to get them hauled out? OP needs something to learn on for a home shop, and is on a budget (most of us have been there). It would not surprise me if he could swing a deal to clean out the shop and keep the lathes, might be a good way for him to get started.
michiganbuck
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Good to buy a running machine..and take a lathe hand with you for a tryout.
If you have to save some money and go 2.000+ it s worth the wait.
You will likely have 2000+ in restoring a clunker.
If you buy an OK/good lathe for a fair price very likely you can sell it for what you paid.
You should list your location..perhaps a PM guy has an extra lathe.
If you have to save some money and go 2.000+ it s worth the wait.
You will likely have 2000+ in restoring a clunker.
If you buy an OK/good lathe for a fair price very likely you can sell it for what you paid.
You should list your location..perhaps a PM guy has an extra lathe.
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Go find a clausing or some such, unless you want a project ( in time it will certainly cost more than buying a ready to go machine, worn out is a false economy that I’ve fallen foul of too many times, buy cheap buy twice is certainly true)
Get the best you can, I’m not saying rush out and buy a 10EE monarch ( a beautiful machine, and worth every penny for a good one, we had a few in work that took a beating, well cared for but worked hard for 40 years and still good to use)
However if it’s all you can have, better that than nothing
But I’d try to set my sights higher, short term pain leading to a far better experience I’ve found
Mark
Get the best you can, I’m not saying rush out and buy a 10EE monarch ( a beautiful machine, and worth every penny for a good one, we had a few in work that took a beating, well cared for but worked hard for 40 years and still good to use)
However if it’s all you can have, better that than nothing
But I’d try to set my sights higher, short term pain leading to a far better experience I’ve found
Mark
Thanks people..yeah its appalachia here and last i heard scrap was up. Im near wheeling wv. Anything thats metal is snatched in 10 seconds by hillbillies. One lathe was gone in one day.maybe it was a good one? I also need a lathe to check run out on transmission shafts and parts im working on.
john.k
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Evn if scrap is up,how is that going to make a 500lb lathe worth more ...like 500lb is an extra $50 at most............a millenial says the other day,if a 100 year old motorbike is worth 50k ,how come I cant get that kind of money for this machine?..........aaah ,the injustice of it all.
JohnEvans
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Much better than either of those ! ASUMING in decent shape,worn out junk is still that no matter who made it.
memphisjed
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You “want” a lathe. Legit desire.
You do not need a lathe to check runout: Two centers (sherline tail stocks) and an indicator.
Cash and patience gets tools, a lot of either saves a proportional amount of the other.
You do not need a lathe to check runout: Two centers (sherline tail stocks) and an indicator.
Cash and patience gets tools, a lot of either saves a proportional amount of the other.
PackardV8
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Yes, agree, this is a pro forum, but you guys are far out of touch with the homeowner machine market pricing, so the advice is not helpful.
As previously mentioned, the smaller, lighter lathes are beginner machines which won't do real work, but since they can be moved in and out by one person if necessary, will sell quickly and all day long.
Guarantee, at least up here in the frozen northwest, a morning of cleanup and I could get $500 for that Atlas and have the next three would-be buyers disappointed they were too late.
If the 3-jaw and 4-jaw and the tool post grinder were decent and one was willing to put up with the craigslist and facebook garbage, it might bring $750. Add a QC toolpost, wait long enough and it might bring $1,000
jack vines
As previously mentioned, the smaller, lighter lathes are beginner machines which won't do real work, but since they can be moved in and out by one person if necessary, will sell quickly and all day long.
Guarantee, at least up here in the frozen northwest, a morning of cleanup and I could get $500 for that Atlas and have the next three would-be buyers disappointed they were too late.
If the 3-jaw and 4-jaw and the tool post grinder were decent and one was willing to put up with the craigslist and facebook garbage, it might bring $750. Add a QC toolpost, wait long enough and it might bring $1,000
jack vines
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