sandiapaul
Titanium
- Joined
- Mar 19, 2004
- Location
- Princeton, NJ USA
I’m selling my Smart & Brown 1024. I bought it in 2016 and spent 18 months renovating it. It was taken nearly all apart, only the spindle stayed in. I made many new parts, mainly for the apron mechanisms. I made several new shafts all from 4140, and replaced many bearings. Also ordered over $500 of new parts from Bracehand in the UK which has parts for the machine. Our Lathes - Smart and Brown Machine Tools, Bedfordshire
If you are not familiar with this lathe, here is a Tony’s write up:
Smart & Brown Model 1024 lathe
Every part was taken apart, cleaned in an ultrasonic (if it would fit) and otherwise cleaned up thoroughly. Painted parts were primed, sanded, some filler used and at least 3 coats of paint were applied. Note: this is not a show car finish, it was brush painted and you will find a run here and there. I used Benjamin Moore alkyd enamel. Bed has some wear, about 3-4 thou, this is acceptable for me and has not made a difference in my work, some of which is pretty close. The restored apron is a simple joy to use, controls are dead simple and it works very smoothly.
When I got the machine the motor was a 550 volt. It was also equipped with a electric brake. I had no way to run that so I pulled it and installed a new 3HP WEG motor and a TECO VFD. I tried to keep the look of the original controls and all the controls are in the same original plate. The VFD system works well. The cost for that was $835.
So about that original drive setup…I’m not a fan. The motor drives a 2 speed gearbox which then drives the spindle. That is all good…my issue was neither belt has any tensioning system in it, and the gearbox to spindle has to be glued in place. I decided to change that and initially added a tension system to the motor to gearbox. That was easy enough. But the spindle belt I had made and I glued in place was ultimately too long. It was at that point I decided that having a way to tension that belt was a good idea. I designed and built a simple system to do that. It was really luck in that the way S&B designed the gearbox mount it was pretty easy to do. My system may not be super elegant but it does work! I have a belt from: Any size flat drive belts by Al Bino Industrial Belting | Machine belts supplier
Many have sung the praises of this belt, yet I’m not super happy with it. It just does not feel super “grippy”, I have a McMaster belt on it the motor to gearbox on it now and I like it a lot better, I plan on changing the spindle one too:
McMaster-Carr
I can supply digital copies of the owners and maintenance manuals. They were really helpful in the renovation. As was the Yahoo group which seems to be gone totally and also the help of several people here, particularly in adjusting the 2 speed gearbox clutches.
About moving it…it is a heavy bugger. 2700 lbs or so. I have a walkout basement and the usual procedure is to use a roll back truck, a pic of the delivery of the lathe is included. We then use a pallet jack to get it into the shop. One of those low floor trailers would work too. If you plan on moving it yourself, bring help. Also I am working with a rigger who has offered to pull this machine and replace it with a new machine I’m getting. He can deliver to you if you are reasonably close to central NJ or has offered to bring it back to his warehouse and can arrange shipping it to you. You would have to work out those costs with him. I can put you in touch
It’s sold as a “bare lathe” which is how I got it, but I’m keeping the 3 jaw I bought and the Multifix clone I installed. The original turret toolpost is included but not installed. Taper attachment is included as well of course. I can supply other photos if you want, just let me know. Why am I selling it? My wife would like to know the answer to that too! Maybe I’m fickle when it comes to lathes. This is about the 6th machine I have renovated, maybe I just want a new project.
Price is $3900.00 and it is near Princeton, NJ.
Use email to communicate: pjpickard @ gmail.com
If you are not familiar with this lathe, here is a Tony’s write up:
Smart & Brown Model 1024 lathe
Every part was taken apart, cleaned in an ultrasonic (if it would fit) and otherwise cleaned up thoroughly. Painted parts were primed, sanded, some filler used and at least 3 coats of paint were applied. Note: this is not a show car finish, it was brush painted and you will find a run here and there. I used Benjamin Moore alkyd enamel. Bed has some wear, about 3-4 thou, this is acceptable for me and has not made a difference in my work, some of which is pretty close. The restored apron is a simple joy to use, controls are dead simple and it works very smoothly.
When I got the machine the motor was a 550 volt. It was also equipped with a electric brake. I had no way to run that so I pulled it and installed a new 3HP WEG motor and a TECO VFD. I tried to keep the look of the original controls and all the controls are in the same original plate. The VFD system works well. The cost for that was $835.
So about that original drive setup…I’m not a fan. The motor drives a 2 speed gearbox which then drives the spindle. That is all good…my issue was neither belt has any tensioning system in it, and the gearbox to spindle has to be glued in place. I decided to change that and initially added a tension system to the motor to gearbox. That was easy enough. But the spindle belt I had made and I glued in place was ultimately too long. It was at that point I decided that having a way to tension that belt was a good idea. I designed and built a simple system to do that. It was really luck in that the way S&B designed the gearbox mount it was pretty easy to do. My system may not be super elegant but it does work! I have a belt from: Any size flat drive belts by Al Bino Industrial Belting | Machine belts supplier
Many have sung the praises of this belt, yet I’m not super happy with it. It just does not feel super “grippy”, I have a McMaster belt on it the motor to gearbox on it now and I like it a lot better, I plan on changing the spindle one too:
McMaster-Carr
I can supply digital copies of the owners and maintenance manuals. They were really helpful in the renovation. As was the Yahoo group which seems to be gone totally and also the help of several people here, particularly in adjusting the 2 speed gearbox clutches.
About moving it…it is a heavy bugger. 2700 lbs or so. I have a walkout basement and the usual procedure is to use a roll back truck, a pic of the delivery of the lathe is included. We then use a pallet jack to get it into the shop. One of those low floor trailers would work too. If you plan on moving it yourself, bring help. Also I am working with a rigger who has offered to pull this machine and replace it with a new machine I’m getting. He can deliver to you if you are reasonably close to central NJ or has offered to bring it back to his warehouse and can arrange shipping it to you. You would have to work out those costs with him. I can put you in touch
It’s sold as a “bare lathe” which is how I got it, but I’m keeping the 3 jaw I bought and the Multifix clone I installed. The original turret toolpost is included but not installed. Taper attachment is included as well of course. I can supply other photos if you want, just let me know. Why am I selling it? My wife would like to know the answer to that too! Maybe I’m fickle when it comes to lathes. This is about the 6th machine I have renovated, maybe I just want a new project.
Price is $3900.00 and it is near Princeton, NJ.
Use email to communicate: pjpickard @ gmail.com
