Full 5 Axis CNC Excello 408 HMC /HBM

[Ox]

Considering letting this jem go to a good home, who will love her and feed her cool jobs.

1980 Excello 408 HMC with extended Y axis per special order. Built in Howell, Michigan.
Almost identical machines are still built in Howell to this day as Machining Systems.
Machining Systems Inc

I believe that Excello is serviced under Fives Group, along with Cincinnati, and Giddings and Lewis.
Fives Metal Cutting

Came from Gov facility building missile parts.
Kansas City
Only ran (in service) 10 years, and then mothballed for 15 years when I got her.
Service records seem to show that it got very few hours of use while there.

Originally had a Bendix (Dynapath) System 5 (4 axis) control.
We replaced the old control with a PC based 5 axis system.
Running CamSoft on top of XP, with Galil motion components.
It IS a full 5 axis contouring control.

Integration is not complete. I have ran it for the last 10 (?) years as is. The toolchange macro has not been written yet. The rigid tapping macro has not been written yet. The C axis encoder IS in place and integrated for the rigid tapping.

Travels are:
X = 48"
Y = 48"
Z = 28" (I think)
B = full 360,000
A = full 360,000

Table is 28" x 36".
It does NOT have a pallet changer.

20 hp (?) spindle motor with a 3 speed gearbox.
3000 rpm max.
Cat 50
30 (?) tool chain on top of machine with changer.
Is possible to run changer manually, tho I never used it that way.

The A axis is a 30" Diameter Pratt and Whitney rotary table that is very tight.

Linear axi's are built on 2 x 5" solid box ways with rollers.
Ways are in like new condition.

Servo motors and drives are all original Getty's, except the A axis has a Siemens motor.

I also bought her sister and cannibalized her. So we have spare screws for X and Y. (possibly Z?)
Spare motors, and the whole motor / spindle / gearbox / center carrier assembly. I'm not sure what all parts that we have squirreled away.... Haven't needed any...

While it is absolutely wonderfull to have this capability occasionally, I am just not utilizing her enough.
Will sell to good shop who will love her and feed her for $30,000 @ 419-924-5616

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Think Snow Eh!
Ox

 

[plastikdreams]

Considering letting this jem go to a good home, who will love her and feed her cool jobs.

1980 Excello 408 HMC with extended Y axis per special order. Built in Howell, Michigan.
Almost identical machines are still built in Howell to this day as Machining Systems.
Machining Systems Inc

I believe that Excello is serviced under Fives Group, along with Cincinnati, and Giddings and Lewis.
Fives Metal Cutting

Came from Gov facility building missile parts.
Only ran (in service) 10 years, and then mothballed for 15 years when I got her.
Service records seem to show that it got very few hours of use while there.

Originally had Dynapath System 5 (4 axis) control.
We replaced the old control with a PC based 5 axis system.
Running CamSoft on top of XP, with Galil motion components.
It IS a full 5 axis contouring control.

Integration is not complete. I have ran it for the last 10 (?) years as is. The toolchange macro has not been written yet. The rigid tapping macro has not been written yet. The C axis encoder IS in place and integrated for the rigid tapping.

Travels are:
X = 48"
Y = 48"
Z = 28" (I think)
B = full 360,000
A = full 360,000

Table is 28" x 36".
It does NOT have a pallet changer.

20 hp (?) spindle motor with a 3 speed gearbox.
3000 rpm max.
Cat 50
30 (?) tool chain on top of machine with changer.
Is possible to run changer manually, tho I never used it that way.

The A axis is a 30" Diameter Pratt and Whitney rotary table that is very tight.

Linear axi's are built on 2 x 5" solid box ways with rollers.
Ways are in like new condition.

Servo motors and drives are all original Getty's, except the A axis has a Siemens motor.

I also bought her sister and cannibalized her. So we have spare screws for X and Y. (possibly Z?)
Spare motors, and the whole motor / spindle / gearbox / center carrier assembly. I'm not sure what all parts that we have squirreled away.... Haven't needed any...

While it is absolutely wonderfull to have this capability occasionally, I am just not utilizing her enough.
Will sell to good shop who will love her and feed her for $30,000

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Think Snow Eh!
Ox

That's a huge bitch!

 

[DDoug]

That's a huge bitch!

No, it's a very nice machine.

I have designed fixtures for it's larger brother (didn't have the "Oxified" fifth
axis though).

I don't understand why parts would be sourced thru fives, yet machining
systems is making re-built ones, I figured everything one would need (parts
& service) would come from MS.

 

[EmGo]

No, it's a very nice machine

You ain't kiddin'. Two friends have had 104's, they are just super. Run rings around a Haas horizontal, even at their advanced age.

But my favorite Ex-Cell-O story was the tool show in the east bay ... all the usual suspects were making aluminum ash trays but the distributor for Ex-Cell-O couldn't get a spare machine for the show. So they talked Grove Valve into running production. Everybody else with spiffy suits and hotsy bikini babes (remember USMT ?), the Ex-Cell-O booth had a greasy guy in coveralls, pallets of cast iron valve bodies, and Trim-Sol rivulets running across the floor. Funny

Nice machine with the best toolchanger I have ever seen. Put a Bendix 10 on 'er and make parts

Now, has anybody here got a Sundstrand vertical ?

 

[Aswank]

I have owned a Sundstrand Jig 21 vertical for a long time, X=84", Y=54", Z = 48", all rollers all axis with ball screws.
It is in very good condition and I have stored it for a long time until time to finish it up. It has a Microswinc (Vax digital) LM181 controller on it. It is a beauty of a machine and I was able to buy it with over 600 tool holders Omnitooling 2" straight shank.
Al Swank

 

[DDoug]

Ox,
I looked over your listing pretty good, and I don't see a weight.

This machine might have to get taken apart ?

 

[Ox]

Yes, it is a 2pc machine.

I believe that it came in on one dbl drop.
I was expecting 2 trucks, but they got it all on one as I recall.

It's prolly 45,000# ???
The pallet change machines get to be up around 60-65K#, but this one doesn't do that.

That didn't include all the spare parts that I brought home a few years later.


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Think Snow Eh!
Ox

 

[GWIZ]

408s are solid machines and that one looks good for its age. Here at Machining Systems in Howell we make a similar product but it is all our own. We use to retrofit some Excello machines but we have not done that for 25+ years. We have sold many more HMCs than the old Excello ever did. Sorry to say the Current Excello HMC doesn't seem to share any genes with the older version. Hope it finds a good home. FYI - If it were to get parted out the Getty servo motors & drives, Reliance spindle drive and motor (if that is what it has) would be worth some cash.

 

[Ox]

This one is NOT getting parted out.



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Think Snow Eh!
Ox

 

[GWIZ]

Sorry Didn't mean to offend you. The hardware on those XLO machines can last forever. It is usually the electronics that die first. IE the replaced Dynapath CNC. I hope your 408 finds some who will use it regularly as thats how they run the best.
Best Regards,

 

[Jaxian]

Love the machine. Sadly much too big for my space right now.

It would fill my irrational desire to have a mill that requires stairs.

 

[DDoug]

This machine looks like it would be ideal for custom making
(from billet) aluminum wheels.

 

[dkmc]

FYI - If it were to get parted out the Getty servo motors & drives, Reliance spindle drive and motor (if that is what it has) would be worth some cash.

I've got a 208 that IS parted out.
Motors and drives, spindle motor and drive ......all available
PM Me......

 

[Ox]

$20k


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Think Snow Eh!
Ox

 

[dkmc]

 

[empower]

Considering letting this jem go to a good home, who will love her and feed her cool jobs.

1980 Excello 408 HMC with extended Y axis per special order. Built in Howell, Michigan.
Almost identical machines are still built in Howell to this day as Machining Systems.
Machining Systems Inc

I believe that Excello is serviced under Fives Group, along with Cincinnati, and Giddings and Lewis.
Fives Metal Cutting

Came from Gov facility building missile parts.
Kansas City
Only ran (in service) 10 years, and then mothballed for 15 years when I got her.
Service records seem to show that it got very few hours of use while there.

Originally had a Bendix (Dynapath) System 5 (4 axis) control.
We replaced the old control with a PC based 5 axis system.
Running CamSoft on top of XP, with Galil motion components.
It IS a full 5 axis contouring control.

Integration is not complete. I have ran it for the last 10 (?) years as is. The toolchange macro has not been written yet. The rigid tapping macro has not been written yet. The C axis encoder IS in place and integrated for the rigid tapping.

Travels are:
X = 48"
Y = 48"
Z = 28" (I think)
B = full 360,000
A = full 360,000

Table is 28" x 36".
It does NOT have a pallet changer.

20 hp (?) spindle motor with a 3 speed gearbox.
3000 rpm max.
Cat 50
30 (?) tool chain on top of machine with changer.
Is possible to run changer manually, tho I never used it that way.

The A axis is a 30" Diameter Pratt and Whitney rotary table that is very tight.

Linear axi's are built on 2 x 5" solid box ways with rollers.
Ways are in like new condition.

Servo motors and drives are all original Getty's, except the A axis has a Siemens motor.

I also bought her sister and cannibalized her. So we have spare screws for X and Y. (possibly Z?)
Spare motors, and the whole motor / spindle / gearbox / center carrier assembly. I'm not sure what all parts that we have squirreled away.... Haven't needed any...

While it is absolutely wonderfull to have this capability occasionally, I am just not utilizing her enough.
Will sell to good shop who will love her and feed her for $30,000 @ 419-924-5616

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Think Snow Eh!
Ox

hotdamn, this place is 2 miles from my new house! nice.

 

[EmGo]

Love the machine. Sadly much too big for my space right now.

Then this could be your lucky day ! I know of a miniature version right near you, about 90% rebuilt, that would fit nicely in your spot ! Only 8500 lbs, very compact, a lovely little horizontal. (Those words are usually hard to fit together !)

 

[Ox]

hotdamn, this place is 2 miles from my new house! nice.

Howell?

Fives?

KC Campus?

My storage facility?

I thought that you said that you were Detroit area?


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Think Snow Eh!
Ox

 

[empower]

Howell?

Fives?

KC Campus?

My storage facility?

I thought that you said that you were Detroit area?


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Think Snow Eh!
Ox

howell, just bought a 5 acre lot with a house and 30x40' barn there a few weeks ago.
its fucking gorgeous out here!

 

[Garwood]

My mom grew up in Howell, MI. She moved west 55 years ago and still has the accent.