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Hendey 14 by 6 Tie-Bar Rehab

gatz

Cast Iron
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Sep 22, 2006
Location
Lincoln, NE
.....There was a big dip along the length of the spindle where the clamp cotter wore so a healthy bit of mental interpolation was exercised.

That's a line I'll have to remember...LOL

Pat, what a great job of restoring!!.

The drive system is really nice. How is it shifted left to right for the stepped pulleys? Is the square bar part of that?

BTW, cannot tell from the picture, but do the cabinet doors have locks on them ?

If so, and you can corral all those lil critters in at once, it may allow ample time for painting.
 

Patrick Black

Aluminum
Joined
Dec 11, 2007
Location
Middle Tennessee
Hey Herb,

Thanks for the comment.

Any idea how many hours you've put into it?

I haven't the slightest idea. Too many to make it worthwhile if I was doing it for money.

That reminds me of something. I've read pretty much every issue of Fine Woodworking since #1. I always find it amusing when someone in the readers gallery brags that they spent 1,352,598.3 hours making a dining table, bureau, or whatever. Then you read an old article by Tage Frid or one of his contemporaries and they say "It takes me 22 hours to make this table and set of chairs". I'm always vastly more impressed by the man that can "Get er done" and get it sold.



Gatz,


.....There was a big dip along the length of the spindle where the clamp cotter wore so a healthy bit of mental interpolation was exercised.

That's a line I'll have to remember...LOL

I had in instructor in school who constantly reminded us to "Embrace the Variability".

How is it shifted left to right for the stepped pulleys? Is the square bar part of that?

You just pick a step and leave it there. The four speeds in the gearbox take the place of shifting steps on the pulleys. It was kind of fussy getting everything to line up. I would have used the largest step on the cone, but the belt was rubbing the backgear axle when the backgear was engaged so I had to shift everything down one step. The big arm and all the mounting bracketry is all made by Drive-All, so it was made to be somewhat universal. The extra length of the square thing just allows you to adapt it to different machines but it's too much trouble to move everything around to use different steps on a regular basis.


BTW, cannot tell from the picture, but do the cabinet doors have locks on them ?

If so, and you can corral all those lil critters in at once, it may allow ample time for painting.

Hmmm. No locks, but I may just head out to the hardware store and get some. I suppose I should drill some air holes in the cabinet boxes. Great Idea. I might have to think that one through :scratchchin:


Thanks for the comments

Pat Black
 

George Andreasen

Stainless
Joined
Feb 11, 2007
Location
Alturas, California
Pat, I've been quietly following your thread.......admiring your work and using some of your photos to assist on my own Hendey. Since all the adjectives for praise have been used up by everyone else, I'll just say.....




It should be on display in Torrington.
 

Patrick Black

Aluminum
Joined
Dec 11, 2007
Location
Middle Tennessee
George,

using some of your photos to assist on my own Hendey

Oh my! :eek: Be careful. Remember, I recieved this thing in baskets and cardboard boxes. My brother lost all the photos he took when he disassembled it. There's no gaurantees that I put everything back where it's supposed to go.

It should be on display in Torrington.

Thanks so much for the compliment, but I think I'll keep it around here for the time being. Mrs. Black would pummel me with her garden rake if I came in one day in the near future and said "Guess what, I sent the Hendey off to its birthplace so I'm going to get another one to rebuild." I'll let the dust settle and do a few "in-house" projects for now.

Best,

Pat Black
 

Patrick Black

Aluminum
Joined
Dec 11, 2007
Location
Middle Tennessee
Speleoflutist,

OMG that old girl is a real beauty. If it were mine I'de be afraid to get her dirty. Great work.

That's why I took all the pictures. Actually, I've already cleaned it back up twice after making some parts to get some finished photos. Now it's time to let 'er get dirty and leave 'er that way for a bit. Thanks for the comment.



Tim,

Patrick,
I would like to stop by and see your lathe in person. You have a PM inbound.

Tim

Looking forward to it. Have a good trip.

Pat Black
 

Tboh

Plastic
Joined
Mar 9, 2009
Location
Louisiana
In the end, however, I had neither a rotary table, or skill, (or talent for that matter) so I decided I was just as happy with a green brick as shown below.

I'd say you are underestimating that skill level part. Absolutely fantastic work.
:cheers:
 

johnpfaff

Plastic
Joined
Mar 7, 2010
Location
minn. usa
Tboh, I have no idea what you're talking about-except for the 'fantastic work' part. But I do thank you for bringing this great story back to the top of the list. I read through the whole thing again just like I did the first time I found it and was again amazed at what Patrick did with a pile of parts and no pictures.
Once again I am inspired to get to work on my machinery-we'll see how long that lasts this time.......
I printed an 8 x 12 colored picture of the finished product as a reminder of what can be done if a guy gets his a__s (not Atlas) busy. Whenever I look at it I think that the only way that Hendey could be better is if the belt went all the way up to a lineshaft on the ceiling.
Anyway-all you preservers of the iron have a productive 2012!
JOHN
p.s. Patrick---AWWWWWSOME!
 

Sk8Ter

Banned
Joined
Apr 27, 2012
Location
Portage IN
Hello Mr Black....What a wonderful restoration project! I do not know what the factory originally looked like.... but I would bet that you done did ...a more better job!!! :)

very inspirational to say the least I will be pondering this thread for some time ...

Thank you for your time...

Lawrence
 

gwilson

Diamond
Joined
Oct 1, 2006
Location
williamsburg va
That is just a fantastic restoration job!!!! The paint is remarkable. I wish today's makers would bother to make beautiful castings like these,but all they can do is make boxes piled on boxes. No artistry these days.
 

Patrick Black

Aluminum
Joined
Dec 11, 2007
Location
Middle Tennessee
Thanks All,

It's been a little over two years since I finished this. The lathe is in service and running well. I dragged a barrel of swarf out of the chip pan a couple weeks ago.

Pat Black
 
Joined
Aug 10, 2007
Location
West Coast
Pat,

Your Hendey is spectacular! What an amazing old machine you have brought back! I am most impressed at how you brushed it and got such a nice finish. In the past I have used Rustoleum Hammered paint as it is more forgiving, or so I thought, than other enamels. You sure disprove that theory...;)

I really love the Rock Moss Green color, and think it looks outstanding. In another thread it was pointed out that TSC doesn't use Valspar anymore, which was the paint you had got from them. The new line of Majic is evidently different and nothing like the Valspar.

I'm posting to this thread as this is where it originates from, and if others are interested this seems like the right place. I have a machine which I would like to paint this color that I'm rennovating/cleaning, as well as being able to have it mixed in the future if needed. I will check at my local Kelly-Moore and Benjamin Moore stores, the later being more likely to find an industrial paint that can be mixed. Kelly-Moore does handle Rustoleum Industrial 7400 but I am almost certain when I inquired to them in the past they only sold stock colors, so if I wanted it mixed that would required buying gallons of each color. That is why I feel Benjamin Moore might be better.

Have you, or anyone else for that matter, heard of anyone mixing this color up with paint that is available today?

Again, kudos on the Hendey, a fine job indeed. The paint just impresses me to no end that you brushed it, and with a common brush from the sounds of it. Wow!

If when I find something I will post here. I found some paint that "looks" right at this place, but since it's targeted at car restoration, the price is a tad high at $60/gallon ($85 for a "kit" with hardener). OTOH, it's not the end of the world to spend $60 on a gallon of paint, that might just be cheaper in the end if this would work well. It may need to be sprayed, I'm not sure. But I would prefer to find a better local solution as you did.

(linky pic takes through to TCP Global site)



Cheers,
Alan

I sent a PM to you but not sure how often you check in here.
 
Joined
Aug 10, 2007
Location
West Coast
To keep this information with this thread. Special thanks go to Brian for doing the legwork, not to mention JohnO's work to send the sample to him of the Patrick Black TSC/Valspar formula not available anymore.

This is the formula to match the Rock Moss Green Patrick Black had mixed up, but using Benjamin Moore P22. The proper primer to use is Benjamin Moore P06 Gray.

For more information, there is another thread on PM in regard to it, click on the image below to access it.

(The tint base is 4B)



Cheers,
Alan
 








 
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