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Hitachi Seiki VK45 Z axis alarm help

lakey0

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Machine: Hitachi Seiki VK45 SEICOS MIII

Alarm: NC ALARM (1110) NUMC SYSTEM FAIL whatch-dog alarm occurs in the NUMC board

The machine will power up ok, it will home. Then on the control the Z axis readout goes funky, numbers bouncing all around. It can start to run program, then after several seconds errored out.

Any help on what direction to go from here?

Thanks
 

SeikiCorp

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Call Mori-Seiki for a replacement board.
N.E.C. pulled out of the CNC market in the late 90s, But Mori might have the parts in Japan.

It is not easy to replace without the AT-YUMO program that loads the data into the board.
Have a expert do this for you.
 

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SeikiCorp

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Record your EXACT version of this board. There were many revisions over the 8 years this was made.
Should be 16-02-00-xx for the 'old' version. And 16-02-02-xx for the new version.
The new version has a dependency of a matching LSPC board.

Not backwards version compatible.
 

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Vk45II _pavel

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Тревога: АВАРИЙНАЯ СИГНАЛИЗАЦИЯ NC (1110) СБОЙ СИСТЕМЫ NUMC какой-либо сигнал тревоги возникает на платеМашина включится нормально, она вернется домой. Затем на элементе управления показания по оси Z становятся пугающими, цифры прыгают повсюду. Он может начать запускать программу, а затем через несколько секунд Машина: Hitachi Seiki VK45 SEICOS Машина включится нормально, она вернется домой. Затем на элементе управления показания по оси Z становятся пугающими, цифры Любая помощь в том, в каком направлении двигаться дальше.

Привет. Получилось решить проблему. На vk45II возникла та же ошибка.
 

SeikiCorp

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SLBUS is the high-speed serial link from the 'Programable Controller' of the control to the rest of the IO devices.
The number 1 cause of this failure was the SLPW. The number 2 cause was the distribution board if your machine has one.
The first step is to check the 4 color LED at the bottom left of the to be sure all of the voltages are being delivered.

SLPW-a.jpg
 

Vk45II _pavel

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SLBUS is the high-speed serial link from the 'Programable Controller' of the control to the rest of the IO devices.
The number 1 cause of this failure was the SLPW. The number 2 cause was the distribution board if your machine has one.
The first step is to check the 4 color LED at the bottom left of the to be sure all of the voltages are being delivered.

Спасибо! 🤝 Проверю завтра . Дам знать тогда .
 

SeikiCorp

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Well, You will have to find another SLPW or get yours fixed.

Not a issue here in the USA.
I am sure Japan or Germany has people who have fixed this in the past.

Take detailed photos of the jumper positions before you send it out for repair.
 

Vk45II _pavel

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Well, You will have to find another SLPW or get yours fixed.

Not a issue here in the USA.
I am sure Japan or Germany has people who have fixed this in the past.

Take detailed photos of the jumper positions before you send it out for repair.
Спасибо! Будем пробовать отремонтировать самостоятельно. Ещё проблема заблокировали изменение параметров 7600 (00000001) , поменяли на 00000000 и 5010 (00000001) было стало 0000000 - не можем вернуть обратно.
 

Vk45II _pavel

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Фото
 

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SeikiCorp

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Do not worry about no connection to the output screw terminals.
Unless you have something unusual like a robot they only use the plug-in connections.

Check the input connection for 200v AC.
 

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Vk45II _pavel

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Do not worry about no connection to the output screw terminals.
Unless you have something unusual like a robot they only use the plug-in connections.

Check the input connection for 200v AC.
Напряжение 200 Вольт поступает
 

Vk45II _pavel

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Спасибо! Будем пробовать отремонтировать самостоятельно. Ещё проблема заблокировали изменение параметров 7600 (00000001) , поменяли на 00000000 и 5010 (00000001) было стало 0000000 - не можем вернуть обратно.
Про параметры нет информации ?
 

SeikiCorp

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Communication parameters are normally set from the I/O screen. Not directly from the parameters.

Not sure what Para # 7600 is. Not in my book.

0000 = 00100000
0001-bit0 = 1 (Inch)
0002-bit0 = 0 (Invalid edit O8000~)
0002-bit7 = 1(Valid Remote operation)
0020 = 1 (Data In : Port No.)
0021 = 1 (Data Out : Port No.)
0022 = 5 (Remote operation : Port No.)
0026 = 90
0027 = 30
2200 = 00000000
2201-bit0 = 0 (Invalid edit O9000~)

*** RS232C ************
5010 = 00000000
5011 = 0d (4800 baudrate)
5012 = 01 (SPHC P5)
********* Tape Reader *********
5015 = 00000000
5016 = 0d (4800 baudrate)
5017 = 03 (SPHC P7)
********* Tape Puncher *********
5020 = 00000000
5021 = 0d (4800 baudrate)
5022 = 00 (None)
************** DON DON Card ***************
5025 = 00000000
5026 = 0d (4800 baudrate)
5027 = 00 (None)
************** DNC **************
5030 = 00000000
5031 = 0d (4800 baudrate)
5032 = 01 (SPHC P5)
************** Aux2 *************
5035 = 00000001
5036 = 0d (4800 baudrate)
5037 = 00 (None)
***********************************
5050 = 11
5051 = 12
5052 = 93
5053 = 14
 

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Vk45II _pavel

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Communication parameters are normally set from the I/O screen. Not directly from the parameters.

Not sure what Para # 7600 is. Not in my book.

0000 = 00100000
0001-bit0 = 1 (Inch)
0002-bit0 = 0 (Invalid edit O8000~)
0002-bit7 = 1(Valid Remote operation)
0020 = 1 (Data In : Port No.)
0021 = 1 (Data Out : Port No.)
0022 = 5 (Remote operation : Port No.)
0026 = 90
0027 = 30
2200 = 00000000
2201-bit0 = 0 (Invalid edit O9000~)

*** RS232C ************
5010 = 00000000
5011 = 0d (4800 baudrate)
5012 = 01 (SPHC P5)
********* Tape Reader *********
5015 = 00000000
5016 = 0d (4800 baudrate)
5017 = 03 (SPHC P7)
********* Tape Puncher *********
5020 = 00000000
5021 = 0d (4800 baudrate)
5022 = 00 (None)
************** DON DON Card ***************
5025 = 00000000
5026 = 0d (4800 baudrate)
5027 = 00 (None)
************** DNC **************
5030 = 00000000
5031 = 0d (4800 baudrate)
5032 = 01 (SPHC P5)
************** Aux2 *************
5035 = 00000001
5036 = 0d (4800 baudrate)
5037 = 00 (None)
***********************************
5050 = 11
5051 = 12
5052 = 93
5053 = 14
Вот которые заменил по data sheet. Теперь ввод не получается
 

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