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How to train employees?

Trueturning

Diamond
Joined
Jul 2, 2019
I understand the down sides. I'm in a weird spot at the moment because I am transitioning from student to teacher at my shop. I do keep my machine running, but also take the time to train the new guy. Granted he is 2x my age and wants to learn, which is a huge plus. I would think that the experienced guys, and having several to teach would be plus since the task of training gets distributed. I do realize I have much to learn about leadership though.

For what one can positively do which is a lot really because while you train them you work them. Even if a trainer is training or not they will be on the payroll and if there is no work for these fellows to do then there is no need to hire them anyway. If one needs a level of experience then they must find a person, do the extra work themselves, or hire a experienced person.

I have trained many persons over the years some with experience actually most as I have always been tasked with that and also with new green employees. I have had to use translators and sign language to do so because they did not speak good English fully legal workers as far as the company swore and their report not all Spanish mostly/only either.

For what I did I tried to return what was done for me. I was never rewarded with more money easily for doing that really. Not a bonus nor a very very good raise unasked by me. I would have to be persistent at asking for raises.

I would leave when I wished especially though and if I grew to dislike my employer or a employee which I did leave. Not a lot of hopping jobs really.

If someone has a level of ability then they can learn I believe because I have seen it. It takes effort and patience and sometimes just being fair with them.

I know how hard this is to do and it was never easy. I tried to avoid doing that a lot. If I really did not like someone and they were a real mess then someone else had to step up and train them because I would not.

Training can work well and maintaining them being good employees is a lot dependent on management and reward. That is what makes the world go around.
 

Stoney83

Aluminum
Joined
Apr 19, 2014
Location
NW Ohio
Thought I would give a 2 week update. Been super busy and not active on the forum. Although I see this discussion made YouTube and I thank everyone for the feedback.

Things are going a bit better now that I’ve been in the shop constantly (not where I want to be 50-60hrs a week)

The good news:

We are setting up the TM2P with identical tooling as the brother R450s as a training machine it looks silly because everything is out 180 degrees. I have one guy that is capable of programming but not comfortable doing so on the brothers hopefully this changes and he can do tooling and fixtures on a slower machine.

One of the employee took an entrance exams to a local college and is a sharp guy. With some time and training I think he has a lot of potential, he will start college in the new year.

I hired a cleaning lady 2 days a week for 4 hours a day as I was getting irritated all the trash cans were always full and things where messy.

We have a large 2500 pc order that just came in and will keep the guys busy for 2-3 weeks.

I hired my dad back on a limited basis for maintenance and millwright work. He’s 66 so this isn’t a long term solution.

We have started using kiasen foam to organize things and I’m not the one doing it.

The Bad:

I’ve not made much progress on spec sheets and only done a handful. I’m thinking this would be a good project for the employee capable of programming. It would give him some expertise with the parts we run and I could then go in and double check everything.

There’s still way too much work only I’m capable of doing and ultimately I’m the bottleneck on growing the company. Pierson work holding has a video on YouTube relating this to being the hub in a wheel. If the hub fails so does everything else. That’s where the company is and it’s not a good place to be.

The newest operator is going to take some work. There’s warning signs with mechanical aptitude. I need to address this instead of having a more senior employee train him as members here have pointed out. Or perhaps give him green button duty.

A larger customers passed away from complications of Covid at 62 years old. His son is capable of taking over the business but there are some unknowns here that no-one wanted to see.
 

michiganbuck

Diamond
Joined
Jun 28, 2012
Location
Mt Clemens, Michigan 48035
Face mills are very tricky. starting at one place and going around can distort the pockets to where the last inserts are not even seating to the correct pocket angles. Insert height if not checked can allow one or only a few inserts to do the surface finish quality.

Inexperienced new guys should work under the experienced guy..and be instructed off a crew sheet so important small facets of procedure are not missed.

New guys often think of the same time savings idea that caused scrap just like the last guy who tried it..a note on a print "dont do this" can often save dollars.
 

Kingbob

Hot Rolled
Joined
Dec 1, 2009
Location
Louisiana
One tip: When teaching, keep your hands in your pockets. If the trainee is watching your hands his hands aren't learning. I think it was Joseph Whitworth that said something along the lines of "Knowledge is absorbed through the fingers".
 








 
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