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empower

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ukrainian forces pushed back the russian forces in a small city near lugansk, 50 russian troops dead. so far 5 russian planes and 1 helicopter have been shot down.
 

MichaelP

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what the fuck are you smoking?
He is smoking Russian propaganda. And exhales it here if you didn't notice.

P.S. I hope your GF is safe. It'll be hard to leave the city now, but at this moment they don't bomb much beyond military infrastructure. Maybe it will be safer for her to stay put if she lives in Kiev.
 

Gewehr 98

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More like the republicans announcing the first plank in the republican party platform for the 2022 midterm elections.

The republican party seems to be in support of Putin, to a man. Well, they may not be supporting him, but they're afraid to denounce him, afraid that trump will send killers after them. Wait til an American soldier gets killed, and the news outlets start playing Tucker Carlson and the republican politicians praising Putin for his strength. How will they lie out of that?

How trump is still free and walking around, I don't know. He is exactly the reason Putin has got this far. Trump defanged the USA and withdrew military materiel and monetary support for Ukraine, all at the urging of Putin. It's criminal.

You're high on something.

Who gave up Georgia and Crimea? Who orchestrated unprecedented peace talks in the middle east? Who left behind 80 billion dollars in weaponry that now arms the Taliban? Why is Ukraine so important to American interests?

If you had any skin in the game, family, friends, relatives, you'd be able to discern the difference between a Commander in Chief versus a limp dicked Potato Head. You and Rosy should ruck up, salute your flag, and go fight the Biden Crusade.
 

EmGo

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You and Rosy should ruck up, salute your flag, and go fight the Biden Crusade.
While you and the rest of the mouth-breathing army trailer trash should jam your M-16's all the way up to the trigger guard up your asses, then jump off the nearest bridge. Every single operation you've been involved in for the past seventy-five years has been an abject failure. Where the fuck were you when five crummy-ass 600 mph Boeing whales took out several buildings in Manhattan ? "Defense" Department ? You couldn't defend a dog bowl from an angry rabbit. The military is worthless, stupid, idiots who couldn't add two and two if they were wearing mittens. Just get out of the way and keep out of the way, forever and ever, please.
 

standardparts

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While you and the rest of the mouth-breathing army trailer trash should jam your M-16's all the way up to the trigger guard up your asses, then jump off the nearest bridge. Every single operation you've been involved in for the past seventy-five years has been an abject failure. Where the fuck were you when five crummy-ass 600 mph Boeing whales took out several buildings in Manhattan ? "Defense" Department ? You couldn't defend a dog bowl from an angry rabbit. The military is worthless, stupid, idiots who couldn't add two and two if they were wearing mittens. Just get out of the way and keep out of the way, forever and ever, please.

Ah EG....Take a sec and wipe Xi's cum off your chin...and always remember....

CHINA IS ASSHOLE
 

standardparts

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You're high on something.

Who gave up Georgia and Crimea? Who orchestrated unprecedented peace talks in the middle east? Who left behind 80 billion dollars in weaponry that now arms the Taliban? Why is Ukraine so important to American interests?

If you had any skin in the game, family, friends, relatives, you'd be able to discern the difference between a Commander in Chief versus a limp dicked Potato Head. You and Rosy should ruck up, salute your flag, and go fight the Biden Crusade.

Right now all Putin has to do is say Biden and Democrats manipulated the 2020 election and the political ramifications would be epic...in a bad way. Impossible to believe anything from either side.
 

jz79

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what does color of skin have to do with russians in america?

I'm quite sure this dude is spreading Putins ideas by now, previously he hinted that Google is filtering his translations, not one but two times, that hook didn't catch, now he is stirring up nonsense about Russians being treated as blacks, Asians, Mexicans and the rest, if you believe you can convince him, keep on arguing with him, I think he was lying about the translation thing
 

Milland

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Putin cultivated trump most carefully, and for many years.

We now see the harvest of that farming very clearly.

A weakened America, not due to Biden, but by four years (and ongoing) of trump damaging relationships with NATO allies, helping to spread lies, and the rise of a home-grown fascism.

Here is your Q. Here is your right-wing anger, carefully cultivated. Look at what it's brought forth.

This invasion would not have been possible without trump.

Just read the vile words trump states in support of Putin. A former president, praising an invasion by a dictator.

We should all be ashamed...
 

jz79

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the problem isn't just Putin, according to articles here, China is backing him, some sort of friendship agreement has been signed and China is telling us not to call Putins invasion a war of aggression

I think China wants Ukraines food exports, Putin wants a victory to solidify his position, and sanctions won't harm them one bit because they can just buy things from China, 99% is made there anyway, prices for the oil and gas go up, which only benefits Russia, in short - the question is - who/when will be next
 

standardparts

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Putin cultivated trump most carefully, and for many years.

We now see the harvest of that farming most clearly.

A weakened America, not due to Biden, but by four years (and ongoing) of trump damaging relationships with NATO allies, helping to spread lies, and the rise of a home-grown fascism.

Here is your Q. Here is your right-wing anger, carefully cultivated. Look at what it's brought forth.

This invasion would not have been possible without trump.

Just read the vile words trump states in support of Putin. A former president, praising an invasion by a dictator.

We should all be ashamed...

I'm not ashamed. Biden/Harris are a joke and polls show it. Biden is challenged mentally and Putin is exploiting that weakness. This is about Putin making a grab for Ukraine knowing Joe Biden and NATO won't do shit militarily. Why?---The Dems know anymore loss of U.S. lives will certainly cost them at election time.

If the citizens of Ukraine are lucky the U.S. will tell NATO and the UN to accept Putin's terms. It's not right but Joe Biden has a 46 year history of fucking up. Even Obama spoke to that.
 

standardparts

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the problem isn't just Putin, according to articles here, China is backing him, some sort of friendship agreement has been signed and China is telling us not to call Putins invasion a war of aggression

I think China wants Ukraines food exports, Putin wants a victory to solidify his position, and sanctions won't harm them one bit because they can just buy things from China, 99% is made there anyway, prices for the oil and gas go up, which only benefits Russia, in short - the question is - who/when will be next

Sounds like India is sitting on the fence in condemning Russia. And yes, China has got Russia's back as well as China having thier arms up the backsides of some in D.C. who will make much noise but do nothing.

NATO response so far was a tweet. They are all puppets. That's it.
 

jz79

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Putin cultivated trump most carefully, and for many years.

We now see the harvest of that farming very clearly.

A weakened America, not due to Biden, but by four years (and ongoing) of trump damaging relationships with NATO allies, helping to spread lies, and the rise of a home-grown fascism.

Here is your Q. Here is your right-wing anger, carefully cultivated. Look at what it's brought forth.

This invasion would not have been possible without trump.

Just read the vile words trump states in support of Putin. A former president, praising an invasion by a dictator.

We should all be ashamed...

Trump wanted NATO allies to spend the amount that was agreed to, because it directly goes into your economy being the largest arms exporter in the world, in return we get the protection, no money - no protection, that is what you call "damaging relationships" as I see it

I'm not saying he saw this coming, but this joke of a president you have now is what Putin is exploiting, that is more than certain, so if anything - Russia helped Trumps downfall playing his buddy role, I'm not saying they helped to rig the election, not at all, they simply acted accordingly to help influence the voters via your media, played it like a musical instrument
 

standardparts

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And some who should be ashamed are incapable of the moral ability to feel it.

Oh yeah...from the guy who was giddy over reports of people dying from covid.

Joe Biden the liberal Democrat icon of morality and ethics. Best guess is the Biden family deals will prevent our Commander In Chief from really doing anything substantive to block Russia and it's ally China from carrying out thier agenda.

We are so screwed.
 

jz79

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Sounds like India is sitting on the fence in condemning Russia. And yes, China has got Russia's back as well as China having thier arms up the backsides of some in D.C. who will make much noise but do nothing.

NATO response so far was a tweet. They are all puppets. That's it.

what I've been kind of worried about is the amount of farmland that China seems to be buying up, they have captured other industry sectors, and now its time for food

I don't know about money and currencies enough, but I think that the whole crypto thing was another scheme to extract more wealth from west playing on their greed, it was real dollars that went into god knows what, and that god knows what is absolutely nothing more than a number in a computer, "real" currencies are at least backed up by economic projections of countries using those currencies, but crypto seems to me nothing more than a pyramid scheme, but that is my uneducated guess

and most importantly - start looking at signs of other things going on while this play plays out, things that would upset you just as much or even more, but that pass unreported because war has captured everyone attention
 

standardparts

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Trump wanted NATO allies to spend the amount that was agreed to, because it directly goes into your economy being the largest arms exporter in the world, in return we get the protection, no money - no protection, that is what you call "damaging relationships" as I see it

I'm not saying he saw this coming, but this joke of a president you have now is what Putin is exploiting, that is more than certain, so if anything - Russia helped Trumps downfall playing his buddy role, I'm not saying they helped to rig the election, not at all, they simply acted accordingly to help influence the voters via your media, played it like a musical instrument

Good post. Only observation I would add is you select who leads your country----same as we do--so I guess we are all responsible. Maybe time to change things?
 

standardparts

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WuT!?!?! "Weakened America"??? Orangeman tried (and failed) to get Germany to pay its fair share into NATO?
So this is all orangemans fault as well LoLoLoL!
Do you realise that Cyprus love the Rusky money too, as well as London etc etc?

Blackrock predicting rising inflation for the next 2 years
Russia-Ukraine puts 10% U.S. CPI on radar as BlackRock repeats central banks may have to live with inflation | Morningstar

Germany as well as many other countries are chasing global warming and thier infrastructure is all fucked up. Except China of course who has an insatiable appetite for....coal.
 
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