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My son bent the ram on a hyd cylinder. 1" dia X 32" stroke. Bent maybe 1" out of true. Just as a quick general question are rams of that size generally straightenable or best to just scrap it and not to waste the time trying..........Bob
 
How special is the rest of the cylinder? If just a plain jane cylinder its probably more cost efficient to just replace the whole thing, unless there are "supply chain issues" involved. If its a machine specific cylinder, you can just replace the rod, assuming it did not damage the cylinder.
 
Cost issue is understood but his/my time is free. I'm fairly sure we can straighten it with my press and spin it in vee blocks to get it fairly true. I guess I'm asking, generally, are rams routinely straightened or does it seldom work out for one reason or another....Bob
 
Why did it bend?

Determine and correct this FIRST.


Yes, it can be made straight with a press, very blocks and a lot of time.

32 inch length x I inch ram sounds like a smaller unit.

Amazon had 4 x 24 new units for 300 or so, your time is free but sometimes that is too much, only so many hours in a day and time better spent on something else, maybe replace with better unit that may not bend...

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Bent because of a brain fart that won't be repeated. Repairing it at no cost takes the $300 sting away. plus it would be a learning experiance and those are priceless.....Bob
 
Bob,
I have straightened a few with excellent results. If it's a tight radius bend, just pitch it, but a long sweep...not too bad. I bored a piece of aluminum to diameter of rod. Sawed in half the long way to use as a bumper. Make al. Vee blocks as well. Make sure it's centered under the ½ round. It can flip out in a heart beat! Slow and methodical will get you there. When you're close use an indicator for runout. You won't get it to the thou. maybe but surely close enough.

With no money and few tools, these guys somehow get it done....in the dirt. Here's a tutorial:
Hydraulic Cylinder Rod is Stuck and Bend Due to the Hitting of Heavy Stone | Check How it's repaired - YouTube
 
I've straightened a lot of cylinder rods. The rod you list is a flimsy thing, it will straighten easily. Don't overthink the straightness thing, I've seen rods bent that badly work for years.
 
You can buy hardchrome rod from any hydraulic outlet.....although probably cheaper off ebay ........I used straighten lots of rods on earthmoving gear ...quite often the repo men would lift a Bobcat by one of the rams,or drag an excavator out of a yard by the dipper ram,if the lesee refused to surrender the machine.
 
Ray Behner's advice is also my first question, and recently a friend asked me to straighten a hitch cylinder rod on his Kabota tractor.
The tractor is new, and he wasn't sure how it got bent, I straightened it within .004" and sent it back. It got bent again almost immediately!
It seems the distributor assembled the cylinder with the yoke upside down, so that when the cylinder was retracted it automatically bent the rod as it came home. My friend finally saw in the parts drawings that it was assembled wrong and they gave him a new one after some arguing.
With the yoke the correct way up it has built in clearance, but backwards it's just the opposite.

But I've straightened many piston rods up to 3" diameter over the years.

BTW, I finally "Saw" in my mind the best way to do that in the press, a dial indicator holder that hangs between the channel irons that hold the platens so that (Set first to zero against the bottom of the bent rod) as the ram applies pressure I can actually see the bend come down as decimal inch measurment, the pre press runout having been determined in the lathe.
By this means I hope to watch it come down exactly 1/2 of TIR and release the pressure to watch what the amount of spring back is.
Next press it again, only this time add the spring back value to it, that should settle back to very near straight.
Perhaps another check in the lathe then and go from there. I'm convinced that it will save a lot of time.
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Most presses have a pair of V blocks that fit the front of the press for the purpose of checking shafts for straight as you correct them........a lot of ignorant operators assume the V blocks are to be used on the press table and wreck them.
 
My Hyster forklift came back from a 15 minute loan with both tilt rams bent severely...........when I got up the guy who did it ,he denied doing anything......I looked at the security camera pics,and he put cribbing timber under the tilt on either side,as he tilted forward,the rams bent on the timbers.......I could see him standing there saying WTF? too.
 
When I rebuilt the rams on my skidsteer , one was bent about ten degrees so that it did not cycle smoothly by hand. I used my shop press with 20t jack to bend it straight by trial and error. Over bent slightly and had to bump it back. Tested by eye ball and straight edge. Good enough to cycle smoothly by hand. Took less than 1 hr. Still working after 3 yrs later. Rod was 1-1/4.
 
I'm one of those ignorant operators that use V blocks for pressing bar......all the time. It's really easy to whip out a set of aluminum blocks (sacrificial ya know) to hold that bar where it belongs.
 
Turns out when my son tried to retract the rod it got scored. Replacement on order. But thanks for the info. Always good to have stuff in the back of your mind........Bob
 
Turns out when my son tried to retract the rod it got scored. Replacement on order. But thanks for the info. Always good to have stuff in the back of your mind........Bob
Pay attention to your rod gland on disassembly, hopefully the cylinder scratches didn't get it too.

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CaseIH used to have knockout specials on NOS wasnt selling in their warehouse.... a complete hub reduction Rockwell drive axle for a roller -$600......anyhoo,one time they had lots of NOS hydraulic cylinders ,price marked was $100....so I bought one ...and the counter guy charged me $10 for it.......so I bought the lot at $10 each.
 
Cost issue is understood but his/my time is free. I'm fairly sure we can straighten it with my press and spin it in vee blocks to get it fairly true. I guess I'm asking, generally, are rams routinely straightened or does it seldom work out for one reason or another....Bob

id figure out why it bent in the first place? no pressure relief on it?
 
Not sure. He had it hyd hooked up wrong. It's for a 2 post lift so probably best not to screw with a home grown repair. $550 for a new cyl made it right.............Bob
 








 
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