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I keep hearing that this winter will be bad for manufacturing in Europe.

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standardparts

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Saudi Arabia was most recent....................
January 20, 2020
"CDC reports the first laboratory-confirmed case of the 2019 Novel Coronavirus in the U.S."
Of course the Current Administration maintains the release was accidental, which some say the intent of the WW2 Japanese baloon devices were to start fires not to kill non-combatants.

In any event WW2 was long ago, as was 911, and the current Administration states the pandemic is over.

All 'water under the bridge' at this point and the U.S, Japan, China, and Saudi are partners in commerce providing many manufacturing jobs.
 
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Ukrainians overwhelmingly want to keep fighting – and want Crimea back, survey says; 30% of power plants destroyed:​

The war will go on as long as free munitions come in. Until the country is leveled and everyone is dead..Darn shame Russia did that I agree.
 

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Ukrainians overwhelmingly want to keep fighting – and want Crimea back, survey says; 30% of power plants destroyed:​

The war will go on as long as free munitions come in. Until the country is leveled and everyone is dead..Darn shame Russia did that I agree.
When is the USofA ('cause no-one else in the NATO will) start sending container houses....loaded with food as well ?
 

michiganbuck

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When is the USofA ('cause no-one else in the NATO will) start sending container houses....loaded with food as well ?
Or fly all the Ukraines to the States and give them a free life...Likely they are safer people than some hoodlums we get from Mexico.

Re: Mexican bad guys are really tough/bad..some think they own part of a town and have gunfights with the police. Goody two shoes don't know what's bad until their daughters end up with life on the street and their sons' having life in prison.
Politicians don't know that they will suffer also..darn. Tell those dummies to wake up.
 

jim rozen

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We're getting some thing free from the Ukrain - all those russian computer files. Or do you guys say we took them from the russians and gave 'em away for free to ukrain?

Hoodlums from mexico, or hoodlums invading washington dc?
 

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Not container houses, but EU countries and the UK have been sending food donations and volunteer fighters since the beginning.
If pooteen keeps blowing up houses & apartments, the coming winter will be rough without a place to sleep eh ?
so something in the supply chain needs to change.... :nutter:
 

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Russia has no beef with the Ukrainians. They are one people.
There are differences about what is right and fair according to previous agreements (Minsk2). It is clear which side has been the transgressor if one pays any attention to recent history. Who drives those transgressions? Not the people. Or was Maidan spontaneous?

Now, I read several long standing German business concerns across various industries are going belly up due to "costs of doing business", and finding suitable employees etc.
The Green movement exacerbated by the recent energy embargo has fueled even more destructive fires.

Who will benefit from the fall of German technology and manufacturing?

the US of A? China? Turkey? BRICS? All of the above?
 

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You fail to recognize the differences between people and their governments.

Trust me, I know.
The Russian GOVERNMENT has a beef with the Ukrainian PEOPLE.

Else why the invasion, murders and terrorist missile/drone strikes on civilian infrastructure way back from the front?

Russia started this war. They can end it quite quickly - by leaving and stopping the missile/drone strikes.

You're defending their actions and it's not the right side of history to be on.

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CalG

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There is nothing for the people of the Dombas all these years? Disposable I suppose, Not worthy of life and freedom?
 

SeymourDumore

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There is nothing for the people of the Dombas all these years? Disposable I suppose, Not worthy of life and freedom?
Dude what the hell are you talking about?
I'm not even asking you to read or listen to someone, but for Christ's sake, explain what the hell is going through your head???

If you believe there was a widespread love of Mother Russia throughout the eastern regions of Ukraine, then explain the resistance from the word GO in Feb 24!
If it is an overwhelmingly Russian population, then explain why Russia just couldn't take it without a single bullet?
Why did they have to level Mariupol-proper instead of leaving it to the Russian friendlies to take care of business? There was no Ukranian resupply available and the Ukranian nationalists were busy enough fending for themselves in other parts of the country, certainly had not enough attention to be paid for saving a few hundred neonazis stranded in a miserable hellhole, so why the rush to destroy everything?
What do you know about the people in the Donbass that makes you say they were not worthy of life and freedom before 2014?
Where did they get their weapons to fight? Why did they get those weapons? Why do you think the Ukranian extremists looked at them as the next step for Russia after Crimea?
 

CalG

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Dude!

If you wished to be free of the injustice that took place during Maidan 2014. What would you do?

Canadian truckers?
Dutch farmers
Migrants from third world countries.
Uyghurs
Kurds
Yemeni
Syrians
Afghani
Palestinians
?

I pays one to look beyond a single issue.

What's there to live for? Taxes?
 

Bill D

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I hear Ukraine is going to petion the UN to let Ukraine take over the USSR's memberships at the UN. This will replace russia as a permanent member who can cancel UN actions against russia giving those memebership positions to Ukraine.
Russia has proved it is a third world dictatorship with a ineffective military. The only reason it is important is it has nuclear weapons. Some of which may even still work..
Bill D
 

standardparts

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I hear Ukraine is going to petion the UN to let Ukraine take over the USSR's memberships at the UN. This will replace russia as a permanent member who can cancel UN actions against russia giving those memebership positions to Ukraine.
Russia has proved it is a third world dictatorship with a ineffective military. The only reason it is important is it has nuclear weapons. Some of which may even still work..
Bill D
"third world dictatorship".....I guess we are lucky North Korea who fought us to an armistice, North Vietnam who booted our ass after 10 years, and the Taliban for a whole lot of years------Yeah. That damn "third world" stuff. Wonder how this U.S./NATO/EU sponsored proxy war in Ukraine will shake out?

Upside though it sure has meant massive spending for military goods which hopefully translated in to jobs.
 
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