I'm tired. Tired and I don't think I have any left in me, to give my company

[CITIZEN F16]

While both of those things require strength they both overwhelmingly require an efficient cardiovascular system and endurance. I was a twiggy distance runner in school but I could out work a lot of people who would kick my ass in the gym. When you are humping shingles up a ladder your higher squat record doesn't mean much after your second trip up the ladder.

I worked briefly for FedEx loading trucks after school. The guy doing the hiring said he liked hiring runners and wrestlers. Big football players seemed like a good idea but he said most of them would be gassed and walk out halfway through a 5 hour shift.

If you have to hussle dragging the extra weight around is a handicap if you have to bust ass for more than a quick burst. I had pretty good cardiovascular endurance for someone my size. 6 foot even 220-230. You may laugh but I could run a mile in 6:00 and 3 miles in just under 20:00, at the time very good for someone my size. I wasn't naturally big it all came from lifting, someone like me needed to have balance as if you do too much cardio you can't get or keep the muscle on. I ran 3 miles 6 times a weak and did wind sprints.

If it wasn't for pride and determination I would have quit on the hay chucking and logging at the 5 hour mark like the package humpers did. I did some truck unloading also. It was mostly heavy stuff where you didn't move fast, so I was ok there.

 

[DouglasJRizzo]

I am just tired. I want to retire.
Beyond my employees & customers, I just don't give 2 $hits anymore.


Why wait until I (or she) gets too sick t0o travel/ enjoy life?

I've always said that I'd rather be "young-rich/old-poor" than "young-poor/old-rich" but life just didn't work out that way.
Really, I'd murder puppies and kittens to be in your situation.
I own my own shop, love every minute of it and will never go back.

I'd sooner put triple 6's on my forehead before I ever work for another person again.

Im exhausted, and haven't had a vacation in years. I don't give a flyin' f**k. I'm still happier than working for someone else.

If you're really that bothered, take 2 weeks in Palm Springs, a week in Galveston and a week in Miami. You'll be itching to get back into the shop.

 

[CITIZEN F16]

I've always said that I'd rather be "young-rich/old-poor" than "young-poor/old-rich" but life just didn't work out that way.
Really, I'd murder puppies and kittens to be in your situation.
I own my own shop, love every minute of it and will never go back.

I'd sooner put triple 6's on my forehead before I ever work for another person again.

Im exhausted, and haven't had a vacation in years. I don't give a flyin' f**k. I'm still happier than working for someone else.

If you're really that bothered, take 2 weeks in Palm Springs, a week in Galveston and a week in Miami. You'll be itching to get back into the shop.

I don't think a heterosexual male would enjoy Palm Springs these days.

 

[DouglasJRizzo]

I don't think a heterosexual male would enjoy Palm Springs these days.

Shows you how long it's been since I've been there...

 

[triumph406]

I don't think a heterosexual male would enjoy Palm Springs these days.

There's a lot to do in Palm Springs before you'll feel the need to reach for the KY.

 

[CITIZEN F16]

I don't think a heterosexual male would enjoy Palm Springs these days.

Shows you how long it's been since I've been there...

There's a lot to do in Palm Springs before you feel the need to reach for the KY.

I should have said single heterosexual male going by himself. I don't even remember how long ago, but I had a friend
who they could have wrote the "I've been everywhere" song about. The guy was good at living cheaply, save money, quit his job and start wandering around, go broke, get another job, rinse repeat. He even hitchhiked and hopped trains.
Twice he said he was propositioned by males who gave him rides, in Palm Springs. He kept cleaned up.

 

[michiganbuck]

I don't think a heterosexual male would enjoy Palm Springs these days.

I don't know why anyone would want to go to Palm Springs?
Oxnard Ca. Ventura, Santa Brabra are much nicer.
Great weather and good fishing.

 

[Kingbob]

Update:

I am still headed out, but only after a field trip with a new customer, to test a potentially lucrative go/no-go train rail gage.

I learned a lesson yesterday after 25 years in business. I had to let a guy go, and planned for the end of the day.
QuickBooks sent him an email about 'his severance check' being ready, BEFORE he even knew he was being let go.
Of course I was at a Dr's appt when all this transpired.

It was not how I envisioned my first time at laying someone off would go. LOL
Yesterday = disaster
Today= Not as bad
Tomorrow= ??

Just wanted to chime in.

Doug

I've had to be the axeman for several rounds of layoffs over the years and it always always ALWAYS! feels better once you let the bottom of the barrel guys go. You need bodies when thing are screaming busy but when things let up the good ones find a way to keep busy and make the bosses life easier and the ones that found chairs need to be shown the door.

 

[CITIZEN F16]

I've had to be the axeman for several rounds of layoffs over the years and it always always ALWAYS! feels better once you let the bottom of the barrel guys go. You need bodies when thing are screaming busy but when things let up the good ones find a way to keep busy and make the bosses life easier and the ones that found chairs need to be shown the door.

The only people I had to get after for being lazy were mostly young white kids, raised by "modern" parents. I had three of those when I worked for myself. Probably another handful when I worked for others. I used racist hiring practices to keep their numbers down when working for others. On my own the 3 duds were friends, family, and a referral. I never ran across the older slacker, only problems I had with that group is we had guys thinking their tenure was worth a lot when they didn't have the skills to match.

 

[CITIZEN F16]

I've had to be the axeman for several rounds of layoffs over the years and it always always ALWAYS! feels better once you let the bottom of the barrel guys go. You need bodies when thing are screaming busy but when things let up the good ones find a way to keep busy and make the bosses life easier and the ones that found chairs need to be shown the door.

Agreed, no one wants to have to babysit grown men and women. Often I felt I was raising someone else's child that was pushed into the cruel world 100% helpless.

 

[Kingbob]

Agreed, no one wants to have to babysit grown men and women. Often I felt I was raising someone else's child that was pushed into the cruel world 100% helpless.

I have an 11 and 13 year old so I know raising and teaching kids is a full time job but when I have to explain that there is a difference between the yellow handled imperial and red handled metric allen T handles to an "experienced" cnc operator I really wonder why I stress my self out so much. How these people make it through a grocery store let alone life baffles me, apparently I am doing it wrong because dumb and lazy looks easy.

Sorry for the thread derail, suffice to say Doug, I understand how being responsible for everyone in the room and the next room over and the room next to that can wear you the fuck down.

 

[CITIZEN F16]

I have an 11 and 13 year old so I know raising and teaching kids is a full time job but when I have to explain that there is a difference between the yellow handled imperial and red handled metric allen T handles to an "experienced" cnc operator I really wonder why I stress my self out so much. How these people make it through a grocery store let alone life baffles me, apparently I am doing it wrong because dumb and lazy looks easy.

Sorry for the thread derail, suffice to say Doug, I understand how being responsible for everyone in the room and the next room over and the room next to that can wear you the fuck down.

I don't think discussing problem employees is a derailment,it might even make Doug feel better as he says he has a good bunch of guys with him. The grocery store comment brought back a WTF memory, a pair of 22 year olds call them pseudo family and friend, high school buddies unemployed and still live at home. Have them come down to keep the shop going 24 hours for a while, basically red button green button stuff. Since the drive was long and I had quite a bit of short term work for them I told them they might as well pack a suitcase and stay here. So I take them to the grocery store, walk inside with them, hand them a shopping cart, $200 and tell them to buy whatever they want,
but that has to go for food to, I don't want to see $200 of beer and cigarettes (they both smoked). I said I had a few other errands to run and will be back in 30-45 minutes.

They both looked at me like I was crazy and said "We don't know how to grocery shop." I was walking to the grocery store for odds and ends at 12 after my parents got divorced. When my mom got remarried and I was 16 with a car who do you think was the family errand boy?

 

[mhajicek]

There's a lot to do in Palm Springs before you'll feel the need to reach for the KY.

That Kentucky style jelly doesn't taste very good.

 

[Ox]

Huh?

LIKE CHICKEN!


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Think Snow Eh!
Ox

 

[CITIZEN F16]

I don't know why anyone would want to go to Palm Springs?
Oxnard Ca. Ventura, Santa Brabra are much nicer.
Great weather and good fishing.

I couldn't catch a fish at a trout hatchery. The biggest thing I ever caught was a 50 pounder, myself. Tried casting when I was 7 or so, bait flew off, hook came back and caught me in the chin, dad had to pull it out with pliers.

I have plenty of fishing stories, all embarrassing.

 

[triumph406]

I don't know why anyone would want to go to Palm Springs?
Oxnard Ca. Ventura, Santa Brabra are much nicer.
Great weather and good fishing.

Plenty to do in Palm Springs. Great restaurants, we used to go a Christmas as the weather is typically very good. Joshua tree is nearby, and from there we used to drive to Idlywild, or San Diego.

Santa Barbara is very nice indeed,we used to take the train to SB from Orange County, great place to stay. Palm Springs in the winter, Santa Barbara in the summer is a good combo.

Oxnard and Ventura are pretty boring towns, especially as I don't fish.

 

[DouglasJRizzo]

Plenty to do in Palm Springs. Great restaurants, we used to go a Christmas as the weather is typically very good. Joshua tree is nearby, and from there we used to drive to Idlywild, or San Diego.

We always had a great time in Palm Springs. Mom n Dad used to have a vacation place there.

 

[Kingbob]

I don't think discussing problem employees is a derailment,it might even make Doug feel better as he says he has a good bunch of guys with him. The grocery store comment brought back a WTF memory, a pair of 22 year olds call them pseudo family and friend, high school buddies unemployed and still live at home. Have them come down to keep the shop going 24 hours for a while, basically red button green button stuff. Since the drive was long and I had quite a bit of short term work for them I told them they might as well pack a suitcase and stay here. So I take them to the grocery store, walk inside with them, hand them a shopping cart, $200 and tell them to buy whatever they want,
but that has to go for food to, I don't want to see $200 of beer and cigarettes (they both smoked). I said I had a few other errands to run and will be back in 30-45 minutes.

They both looked at me like I was crazy and said "We don't know how to grocery shop." I was walking to the grocery store for odds and ends at 12 after my parents got divorced. When my mom got remarried and I was 16 with a car who do you think was the family errand boy?

I picked up that grocery store line form an old timer I worked with year and years back and thought it was great because it's completely ridiculous. I guess I have to update my definition of stupid. Dang that's rough

 

[CITIZEN F16]

I picked up that grocery store line form an old timer I worked with year and years back and thought it was great because it's completely ridiculous. I guess I have to update my definition of stupid. Dang that's rough

These kids were of average intelligence, and had no other issues, it was just how they were raised. It seems like with every generation the average kid becomes a grown up later and later. I grew up in the 60's and 70's, but I was probably raised like a kid from the 40's as were most of my friends. I was around a kid years ago doing his High School homework, he was using his mother as a dictionary instead of looking things up, I was stunned how she kept answering all his questions.

On a side note if anyone brags about idiot proofing something, or claims they can motivate anyone, I have a family member to send you. He is that bigger idiot, he is the one family member I hired.

 

[DouglasJRizzo]

On a side note if anyone brags about idiot proofing something, or claims they can motivate anyone, I have a family member to send you. He is that bigger idiot, he is the one family member I hired.

They keep building better idiots.