Ingersoll-Rand air compressor is terrible & the service is even worse. DON'T BUY its junk

[dkmc]

Saylor-Beall made in USA for 107 years and counting. Union shop.

Tank-mounted units
Bare pumps

Comparable tonnage per horsepower and RPMs to Quincy's QR-25 lineup. They are big, heavy low speed pumps. They've retained some of the more expensive old-school design features that Quincy phased out beginning in the 50's like centrifugal unloaders and gear-type oil pumps. The wrist pins have needle bearings too, whereas all the Quincies have plain bearings there AFAIK. They both have the same disc-type valves instead of cheaper reed valves (which some of the Ingersols are notorious for if I'm remembering correctly.)

Of course there is the matter of the price tag... A bare 10 horse PL-707 pump alone will put you out four and a half grand. Then again a comparable QR-25 will do about the same.

Buy once, cry once / get-what-you-pay-for and all that. Upfront cost vs false economy resulting from downtime of a cheaper unit in a production environment, yada yada.

There's nothing wrong with Quincy oil pumps. In fact they have fewer parts than a gear type pump, so they may be a better design. Quincy's don't need needle bearings in the wrist pins, they have full pressure lube to the pins. No need to bash Quincy QR 25 series. Only the box store QP series are the ones to stay away from.

The good news about the POS air compressor that Ingersoll-Rand won't even return a call after leaving 5 voice mails and a email message. MSC has issued me a return authorization for a full refund, I will be taking it to MSC's facility tomorrow. Evidently MSC could never get IR to return their calls also. IR has to be one of the stupidest companies putting a big label on the tank (PROUDLY ASSEMBLED IN THE USA), they don't advertise the fact that it is assembled with shitty garbage parts.

Now you have a chance to do it right!

 

[DrHook]

Not only will the Kaeser run like the Energizer bunny, but it will do so "vewy vewy" quietly...

 

[magneticanomaly]

So sad about I-R. Anyone else remember their magazine, "Compressed Air"?
I recently acquired a 1950s vintage I-R 3-stage 3000PSI compressor, and zero help from I-R on manuals.

 

[Dan from Oakland]

Sounds EXACTLY like the experience I had with a Generac generator. Even the local Generac dealer refused warranty work on it after 3 tries because he could not get any support from the factory. Gave up and bought a Honda.....

 

[Steve's Hobby]

Saylor-Beall made in USA for 107 years and counting. Union shop.

Tank-mounted units
Bare pumps

Comparable tonnage per horsepower and RPMs to Quincy's QR-25 lineup. They are big, heavy low speed pumps. They've retained some of the more expensive old-school design features that Quincy phased out beginning in the 50's like centrifugal unloaders and gear-type oil pumps. The wrist pins have needle bearings too, whereas all the Quincies have plain bearings there AFAIK. They both have the same disc-type valves instead of cheaper reed valves (which some of the Ingersols are notorious for if I'm remembering correctly.)

Of course there is the matter of the price tag... A bare 10 horse PL-707 pump alone will put you out four and a half grand. Then again a comparable QR-25 will do about the same.

Buy once, cry once / get-what-you-pay-for and all that. Upfront cost vs false economy resulting from downtime of a cheaper unit in a production environment, yada yada.

Well...that's going to be my 1st call in a month or two-the money: I understand, and I understand quality, why I went with Mazak, and my manual machines: American Pacemaker, K & T, Warner Swasey and more-and...My Mazak machines are made in USA-The Quality of my almost 80 years old American Pacemaker is trully amazing still cutting within a thou today...

 

[rons]

Polishing a turd with electronics.....Might as well put a Rasberry Pi on the thing.....as you wheel it out to the curb.

You don't the difference between an ARM and a leg. LOL.

 

[dkmc]

So sad about I-R. Anyone else remember their magazine, "Compressed Air"?
I recently acquired a 1950s vintage I-R 3-stage 3000PSI compressor, and zero help from I-R on manuals.

Yep, now that you mention it, I got Compressed Air in the mail for many years. Might have some old issues still around someplace.

 

[DDoug]

You don't the difference between an ARM and a leg. LOL.

VFD running a air compressor and regenerative effects causing over-current faults?

Motion, Jst, Good advice.

www.practicalmachinist.com

We can all see your knowledge on air compressors, motors, electrical things etc.....

 

[DDoug]

Saylor-Beall made in USA for 107 years and counting. Union shop.

Oh Boy ! "Union Shop" seals the deal.....

 

[dkmc]

Oh Boy ! "Union Shop" seals the deal.....

Don't buy one made on Friday? Or Monday? Or before or after any holidays?

 

[Just a Sparky]

Oh Boy ! "Union Shop" seals the deal.....

Better than Chi-Com any day of the week.

 

[MrStretch]

Ah, those were the days- when the mailman delivered your compressed air. Also the ARM joke was about processors, obviously a bit over some people's head.

 

[Garwood]

.and also importers of junk Chinese bulldozers......Chinakat and Chinakom (atsu) .....

Are you trying to say that Cat and Komatsu machines are made in China?

I wouldn't be surprised if Chinese market stuff is made in China by those companies, but both are held in pretty high regard. I have never seen a Komatsu machine that didn't look pretty damn well built.

 

[john.k]

Yes ,a Chinese maker has a licence (copied) the older style Cats (D6D,D7G) and Komatsu s (D65 /D85) ....unfortunately they left something out ......quality..................and just incidentally ,Caterpillar has six factories in China,where everything from the toy machines to the D11R parts are made.

 

[john.k]

IR was the best of the best...the sandblasters had a dozen old IR365 Gyroflo s that were made in the 1960s......4/71 GM power..........heavy on fuel,but no problem at the refinery ,as fuel was free.

 

[rons]

VFD running a air compressor and regenerative effects causing over-current faults?

Motion, Jst, Good advice.

www.practicalmachinist.com

We can all see your knowledge on air compressors, motors, electrical things etc.....

It gives some unemployed morons who have nothing better to do than to dump and piss over a website.
Reminds people who have something to do with their lives not to waste their time with them.
Namely you. What was that old user name? Dumpster Doug.

 

[chipss]

The ingersoll machines are now all imported junk. Their popular V twin they call the T30 is now made in India along with undersized motors from who knows where. It's all low quality components assembled in the states. (The T30 used to be called the V30 as it was first brought out in 1930)

 

[14tony]

I have an old Gray 7.5 HP IR Vertical that I've had for about 30 years. Rebuilt the pump a few years back and still running strong. Up until 2008 I also had an old Gray 10 HP IR Horizontal. When I put it up for sale it went in less than an hour with over 50 calls.

 

[DDoug]

It gives some unemployed morons who have nothing better to do than to dump and piss over a website.
Reminds people who have something to do with their lives not to waste their time with them.
Namely you. What was that old user name? Dumpster Doug.

Donny is that You ?
A leetle too much whine there in WallaWalla land ?

 

[tmt]

You might be dealing with cheap/faulty/import accessory type parts that make the compressor system fail.
I replaced the mechanical pressure switch with a modern digital switch that is programmable with a digital readout.
Compare the adjustment range and the screw twiddling you have to do with a diaphragm switch. No more of that nonsense.

Integrated Display Pressure Sensors

Pneumatic sensors with buttons and a display to set and read values from an operator's position.

www.smcusa.com

Come on, this isn't rocket-science! Square-D has been making these since the beginning of time. For every full turn of the nut, on the long spring, changes the cutoff pressure 10 psi. Now how hard is that? Don't mess with the short spring unless you are a masochist! You could buy a couple of them for the price of the digital one. My 20 year old compressor has the original one and it's still working fine.

Now if going digital floats your boat then for a little over 200 bucks, Milton will gladly sell you a digital tire inflator that has an 0.05% accuracy rating, compressor is not included.