Kennametal insert feeds

[dcorey]

Hey guys, I've never used much from kennametal before but i feel like im missing something. I dont see any recommended speeds/feeds/doc info anywhere online. I just see their websites points you to the app but not a single one of my inserts come up with anything of use on the app. I see a general diagram of the insert but as soon as you click the speeds/feeds tab it just says no cutting data available for my material selection despite not having a box for selecting material.

So my question is are all you kennametal guys just freeballing it? Where can i find cutting data for these these turning inserts? How can a company as big as kennametal get away with just not posting anything whatsoever in terms of recommended speeds/feeds outside of a nonfunctioning app? Every review on the app dating back several years just confirms the same thing im seeing with no response from kennametal.

 

[13engines]

Do you not have the same www as everyone else? I googled Kennametal Turning Catalog and was looking and feeds and speeds data within a minute.

If you're using very old inserts you might have to dig for a very old catalog. I have a list off a website that describes every Kennametal insert made since who know when. Can't find it on my home computer. If I find it at work I'll post it. Still you'd have to cross it to a modern one.

Found it... go to www.cets.com and hit resources. Kennnemetal will be one. (Cutting Edge Tool Supply)

 

[guythatbrews]

You can always call KE tech support if you have trouble finding speeds and feeds.

 

[eKretz]

Most of the time you just learn by trial and error. The numbers they give you are a starting range to try out. From there you fine tune based on tool life, finish and edge wear. What inserts are you using, and on what material and machine?

 

[Cole2534]

There used to be rules of thumb for this stuff. 2xNR for DOC, .5xNR for feed, CSx4 is where I've started.

NR- nose radius
CS- cutting speed
DOC- well.....

 

[DDoug]

.....If there isn't a U-toob video available.....

 

[CarbideBob]

Just to make it worse the composition or processing of a carbide grade may change over time.
New presses, new coating furnaces, powder supply changes.....even a new HVAC system in the plant can turn things upside down.
So a box from one year may be different in performance than a box from an earlier year.
The most famous fail here was VC-2.

 

[eKretz]

Just to make it worse the composition or processing of a carbide grade may change over time.
New presses, new coating furnaces, powder supply changes.....even a new HVAC system in the plant can turn things upside down.
So a box from one year may be different in performance than a box from an earlier year.
The most famous fail here was VC-2.

Definitely have noticed this a few times. Also the material is not always consistent either.