Lift and tie down points for an HLV clone

[jccaclimber]

Per the title. I originally posted the below thread in rigging, but this may have been a better place. Do any of you have suggestions? Link below.

Moving and securing an HLV-H clone

I’ve moved a couple Bridgeports and a 15x50 lathe so I’m somewhat familiar with moving objects of that weight and not tipping over top heavy objects. I’m likely going to be moving a Sharp 1118H, an HLV-H clone, in a few weeks. It’s a bit narrower than the 15x50 and just as tall, so I’d like...

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[rons]

When the rigger arrived with my lathe it was lifted off the flat bed with the straps underneath the chip pan.
The operator and I discussed where to put the lathe. It was hanging there a long time. I prefer rolling moves instead.

 

[MilGunsmith]

According to the Hardinge manual, lift with straps under the chip pan on each end.

 

[BT Fabrication]

super simple.
engine hoist, pick up. place on pallet and bolt down throw strap over bed. wont hurt anything.
use hoist to unload at other end also. or even easier if there is a forklift.

 

[Chips Everywhere]

Just do what the machinery mover I hire did, lift it by the bed, pinch the leadscrew and detach the cabinet from the bed while you're at it. Its only held on by 3 screws

 

[FredC]

Just do what the machinery mover I hire did, lift it by the bed, pinch the leadscrew and detach the cabinet from the bed while you're at it. Its only held on by 3 screws

I read the first sentence and said that is a terrible thing to recommend. Bad things will happen.

Then is saw the emoji, so how much time and money did it take to repair?

 

[Chips Everywhere]

I read the first sentence and said that is a terrible thing to recommend. Bad things will happen.

Then is saw the emoji, so how much time and money did it take to repair?

If I recall they claimed no liability and that it wasn’t their fault, but agreed to pay the repair bills.

I think it was about 9. A new leadscrew was 2k from what I recall . As you can imagine the screws failed and the cabinet got detached, it didn’t get off the ground very much so I think that saved a lot. The machine was and still is in very good condition even after it’s mishandling. Still making good tight parts.

 

[FredC]

Wowsers!
I did not think it would beak the screws, I figured the springs would take a beating. Never seen what is in the HLVH, the HXL use the same 3 point type floatation system but the studs used in it are 1/2 diameter and heat treated.

 

[jccaclimber]

super simple.
engine hoist, pick up. place on pallet and bolt down throw strap over bed. wont hurt anything.
use hoist to unload at other end also. or even easier if there is a forklift.

Forklift at the loading end. Neither at the unload end. I could rig a chain hoist, but would have to do so just for this. I’d rather use a couple 2x4 cribbing blocks to get it off the pallet than rig the chain hoist. Obviously end to end not front to back. It does require safe points for a bar, but maybe that’s less of an issue than I expected.

 

[BT Fabrication]

Forklift at the loading end. Neither at the unload end. I could rig a chain hoist, but would have to do so just for this. I’d rather use a couple 2x4 cribbing blocks to get it off the pallet than rig the chain hoist. Obviously end to end not front to back. It does require safe points for a bar, but maybe that’s less of an issue than I expected.

rent a forklift, or have a tilt deck tow truck haul it

 

[jccaclimber]

rent a forklift, or have a tilt deck tow truck haul it

What makes a tilt deck preferable over my drop deck plan? Both are equally available.

 

[BT Fabrication]

What makes a tilt deck preferable over my drop deck plan? Both are equally available.

tow truck can use the winch and just slide it on, then slide it off with the winch if its up on a skid. did that with a 4500# lathe here and was able to put it almost in place then just push it around the floor of the shop.