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Looking at purchasing a New Hurco VM1.

A.Delaney

Aluminum
Joined
Nov 23, 2015
I’m looking for opinions or experiences with Hurco quality and service. Also opinions about this machine vs other Hurco VM series machines. Other machine brands aren’t out of the question. The Hurco just seems to fit what we are looking for.

We do small lot and one off job shop parts. Mostly mild steel with some tool steels. We don’t have have CAD or any other similar software. We program conversational at the machine. We have no experience with G Code. This would be our next step up from a Prototrak RX5. Really what I’m after is the tool changer. It would be our first machine with a tool changer. What I am hoping to achieve is reducing machine time with some of the parts we make. We are also very limited on space. The VM1 will barely fit. My only other thought was to look at a Prototrak tool room VMC. Since we are familiar with the programming. There wouldn’t be much of a learning curve.
 

rklopp

Diamond
Joined
Feb 27, 2001
Location
Redwood City, CA USA
I am eager to see responses, as I am in a similar market for a VMC. I recall that the Trak VMCs are tall enough to present a problem at least for getting it in my building. VM One is short enough. Others on my list are Doosan DEM 4000, Bridgeport V710 or V480, and a Fryer linear bearing VMC. Since you have no CAM, you might not like the machines with vanilla Fanuc controls compared to conversational controls like Hurco, Trak, or Fryer. I recommend you take a hard look at getting up to speed with CAM, e.g., by trialing Fusion 360.
 

BT Fabrication

Stainless
Joined
Nov 3, 2019
i havent personally owned one, but only heard good things about them.

as for cam, spend the $8000 and get mastercam. fusion 360 works but then it doesn't, like cant work without an internet connection and the cloud based junk.
 

DavidScott

Titanium
Joined
Jul 11, 2012
Location
Washington
Fusion will work for 2 weeks without an internet connection and you can set it so anything you have worked on in the last year is stored locally. I too would say learn cad/cam and Fusion 360 has been my pick for the last 9? years. There have been some horror posts about Hurcos here so not everything said about them is roses. Once you get used to a real VMC you won't look back. Tool changers and fully enclosed to keep the coolant and chips in are just a few of the benefits. If at all possible get a probe and tool setter, they will pay for themselves many times over in the life of the machine.
 

A.Delaney

Aluminum
Joined
Nov 23, 2015
Any thoughts on the VM1 vs the VM10? It’s seems as though they are the same size machine. The VM10 has more hp. Wondering how much more machine you get for the money.
 

rklopp

Diamond
Joined
Feb 27, 2001
Location
Redwood City, CA USA
Any thoughts on the VM1 vs the VM10? It’s seems as though they are the same size machine. The VM10 has more hp. Wondering how much more machine you get for the money.
The VM10i has 6" more Z travel, 8 more tools in the changer, 4000 more RPM, and about 25% more torque than the VM ONE (the official name).
 

huleo

Hot Rolled
Joined
Feb 12, 2014
Location
UT
I'd be real interested to know the pricing on both. Can PM me if want to keep private. Personally, I would go towards the VM10 easily because of the extra Z and tool cap. Does not sound like you will need the 12k spindle, but it can bring rewards with small cutters or if you get into softer materials. It also adds serious resale value. No one wants an 8K spindle! They want faster to use modern tooling.

I agree with above though, you need to modernize with CAM programming. I took this plunge a LONG time ago, convinced conversational was the way to the future. NOT! Once you walk down the path, you will NEVER look back! You might be one of those shops that has such silly easy parts that it can work, but if they are that easy, I can probably program them before that machine even completes a warm up cycle.
 

A.Delaney

Aluminum
Joined
Nov 23, 2015
The difference is substantial. Base price. 55k vs 78k. I'm figuring at least another 10-15k in basic options for either machine.
 








 
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