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Metal "shavings"

flipster

Plastic
Joined
Jan 15, 2022
Location
SC, USA
I work for a tier 1 (we supply to OEM's) automotive supplier.

What do you think of everyone at our plant calling chips/turnings "metal shavings"?

For me its one of those things that doesn't really matter, but seems indicative of an overall poor training environment. It probably doesn't help that our chip control is pretty atrocious.
 

CarbideBob

Diamond
Joined
Jan 14, 2007
Location
Flushing/Flint, Michigan
Ever seen a 4 to 6 inch wide form tool cutting axle shafts on a Acme?
What comes off looks like aluminum foil sheets and nothing like chips off a normal mill cutter or turning tool.
Here the word shaving might be a better description.
In more normal turning usage if it does not break is it a chip or a string?:willy_nilly:
Bob
 

CarbideBob

Diamond
Joined
Jan 14, 2007
Location
Flushing/Flint, Michigan
For me its one of those things that doesn't really matter, but seems indicative of an overall poor training environment..
Perhaps you could tell us why you think this poor training or why it bothers you.
I do think of most all metal cutting ops as chip load or chip formation.
Are the things off a grinder chips or other? What is that called?

I for sure also should do the hey "great to have you aboard" with a first post. My bad and not a great intro on my part. Look forward to many more.
Bob
 

lazz

Stainless
Joined
Feb 12, 2012
Location
The warm desert of Phoenix Arizona
I work for a tier 1 (we supply to OEM's) automotive supplier.

What do you think of everyone at our plant calling chips/turnings "metal shavings"?

For me its one of those things that doesn't really matter, but seems indicative of an overall poor training environment. It probably doesn't help that our chip control is pretty atrocious.

From my point of view if they name said metal objects they at least have some kind of idea what they are and where they come from. They have more smarts than the average Joe.

At least they arent decorating with them...
 

thermite

Diamond
Perhaps you could tell us why you think this poor training or why it bothers you.
I do think of most all metal cutting ops as chip load or chip formation.
Are the things off a grinder chips or other? What is that called?

I for sure also should do the hey "great to have you aboard" with a first post. My bad and not a great intro on my part. Look forward to many more.
Bob

Good thing you got in ahead of ME!

I was about to suggest he make a huge-ass "CHIPS!!! Gawdammit!" poster sign, call the Fakenewsmedia to send camera krews, sink a few ramsets to chain his ass to "reserved for.." slot ONE of the pavement of the company Executive carpark, go on a hunger strike .....if it was such a big f**king deal.

But I wont do that now.

Yer a gentle lad for a hard alloy, Bob.

:D
 

Winterfalke

Stainless
Joined
Mar 26, 2011
Location
Huron
I did some work in an auto plant where they had "acids" and "caustics". I couldn't get it through their heads that all basic chemicals were not caustic, and all the caustics were not basic. Aside from the fact that's it was an abject failure in properly marking hazardous materials, if the idiots couldn't even be bothered to find out what the terms mean, I don't trust them to use them...
 

thermite

Diamond
I did some work in an auto plant where they had "acids" and "caustics". I couldn't get it through their heads that all basic chemicals were not caustic, and all the caustics were not basic. Aside from the fact that's it was an abject failure in properly marking hazardous materials, if the idiots couldn't even be bothered to find out what the terms mean, I don't trust them to use them...

LOL! "Auto Plant"? I swear I've owned a few that must have been grown from seed under burnt-out sunlamps in cat shit watered with weasel-piss!

You knoooooow the best you were going to be able to do was to get them to switch-over and label everything:

"DOWNRIGHT NASTY".



Including some of the staff!

:D
 

camscan

Titanium
Joined
Sep 5, 2011
Location
Norfolk
Ever seen a 4 to 6 inch wide form tool cutting axle shafts on a Acme?
What comes off looks like aluminum foil sheets and nothing like chips off a normal mill cutter or turning tool.
Here the word shaving might be a better description.
In more normal turning usage if it does not break is it a chip or a string?:willy_nilly:
Bob

Normally on an Acme or any other multi spindle screw machine shaving is a finishing operation which removes the absolute minimum of material to give finish and size to a component. I have done it on a single spindle B&S type machine but with home made tooling.
 

Doug

Diamond
Joined
Dec 16, 2002
Location
Pacific NW
Shavings?? I always thought of shavings as the little slivers of metal you got in your hands. At one time I had a small turret lathe that used straight cutting oil. The sliver-shavings from that machine became a real irritant on my hands. But why weren't the shavings from my CNC with soluble oil an irritant....?

Simple...the soluble oil has antibiotics that prevented the minor sliver infections.
 

G00 Proto

Hot Rolled
Joined
Feb 18, 2013
Location
Dirkdirkistan, ID
I hate lathe work so much, it pisses me off when the recyclers call my aluminum chips from my mills “turnings”…. It’s like they’re cheapening them.


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thermite

Diamond
I hate lathe work so much, it pisses me off when the recyclers call my aluminum chips from my mills “turnings”…. It’s like they’re cheapening them.

What you get for working cheap shiney-wood.

Big 8 Auditor:

"Who are you trying to fool putting a little 4" x 6" pasteboard box half full of BLACK DIRT on the inventory at $9,000 dollars!"

"It is 'special" dirt. The monthly collection of buffing wheel fibers, abrasive particles, and beeswax. But also 14K and 18K Gold particles out of the polishing operation recovery traps."

He pokes at it with a pencil, see no Gold. Wasn't buying that. So I said:

"Fine, you think you have more experience at this than I do?"
"Give me a number."
"We'll use YOUR number."

He used my number. With a qualifier note.

Refiner's check came back a few weeks later.
I was off by about $300.

The Gold market moves around, y'see.

:D
 








 
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