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Monarch 10ee from CU Boulder for auction on gov deals

TheOldCar

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Looks like quite the set of accessories! Hopefully the lathe itself doesn’t need any repairs other than cleaning/flushing & addressing the oiling system.
 

johfoster

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"I'm not buying it, or selling it, but look at me I can use the internet"... c'mon

If someone is in the market for a 10ee at top dollar they can go find one and buy it anytime. This was not an overly long running auction as many on Govdeals are, and there was/is a chance someone gets a deal on it. (yes the reserve may nullify that, but not certainly)

If you were interested in bidding on it yourself would you still share it with everyone just to be a nice guy? Probably not. You can always post after the fact "did anyone see the 10ee that just SOLD on govdeals?", and likely strike up just as much of a conversation.

(I am actually bidding on this, not just complaining for the heck of it)
 
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MCritchley

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This post probably increased the price of the lathe. Isn’t there a rule in place forbidding this type of message?

Also, I think we should change the for sale forum to active members with at least 50 posts before they can respond to an add via a PM. Leave the contact info off the listing. I’ve seen a forum with those rules and I like it.

Perhaps open up to the general public if the item doesn’t sell.

What do you all think?
 

TheOldCar

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I imagine the original poster was just excited to show others interested, and even mentioned he was close by to offer assistance. Good intentions!

I do think posting the link likely made the price jump quickly. Just from clicking on the eye candy, I seriously considered bidding on it myself! Prolly better to post once the bid ends.
 

sandiapaul

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"I'm not buying it, or selling it, but look at me I can use the internet"... c'mon

If someone is in the market for a 10ee at top dollar they can go find one and buy it anytime. This was not an overly long running auction as many on Govdeals are, and there was/is a chance someone gets a deal on it. (yes the reserve may nullify that, but not certainly)

If you were interested in bidding on it yourself would you still share it with everyone just to be a nice guy? Probably not. You can always post after the fact "did anyone see the 10ee that just SOLD on govdeals?", and likely strike up just as much of a conversation.

(I am actually bidding on this, not just complaining for the heck of it)
This is one of the oldest arguments on this site. Turns out nearly everyone can use the internet and even those with a passing interest have seen it. Bidding and following through with purchase and transportation are different things. The latter is a much smaller group. My experience with Gov deals auctions have been much less than stellar. Good luck whoever bids and gets it.
 

mattthemuppet

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I can see how you'd be put out if you were bidding on something and someone posted the link for everyone to see. But on the flip side I've heard of plenty of stories where people have gotten good deals on stuff from people posting links. At the end of the day, it's the internet, it's out there for everyone to see and the chances of keeping things quiet and getting a killer deal are next to zero.

That said, good luck with the bidding johfoster, I have my fingers crossed for you
 
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Maxim

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Colorful Colorado
People have been posting auction links since dialup days and its such a small forum here I don't think it will run up the price too much.

The covers are removed from the machine, if you look at the pictures on the bottom they are there.
I've bought stuff from cu-boulder via gov deals and never had a problem, they seem like nice people.
 

johfoster

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Who knows what the reserve is...it could be 20k and I wouldn't be too surprised with govdeals. I could be a few hundred away also though. I do like buying from and have had good experiences with universities/gov deals. Typically no one has a dog in the race so to speak, and you can get a much more honest picture of condition out of talking to the people than you would on say bidspotter.

If the price was ran up $50 that is still real money out of the buyers pocket, and for what gain to whomever caused it to go up by posting it?

* I stand by the argument that if you were bidding on something yourself you likely would not share it while the auction was still running, would you? So why not extend that courtesy to others? *

Yes this is the internet, and we can all do as we please...I also am not going to harbor any hard feelings over it or anything. Just pointing out that I personally think it kinda sucks to do. I have done a lot of auction buying over the years, and at times that was needed as a part of my income. Go to a live auction and run the price up on stuff, but don't buy anything...trust me you won't make friends.
 
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Garwood

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Oregon
"Auction Breaking News" experts are assholes.

You find a deal, but your not going to buy it? Pass it on privately to a friend maybe. Otherwise keep your mouth shut. Don't be a dick and turn on the auction deal alert air raid siren.
 
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Garwood

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you guys sound like skin flint boomers that complain kids don't want to work because you only offer a cup of rice as payment.

Hmmm. I'm a millennial that employs boomers at top wages.

I know lots of people my age that are sharp as fuck and get shit done. They're all self employed or working for wages approaching my shop rate.

Not a bad idea to atleast attempt to buy used machines right because you're gonna get fucked by everything else today.

I expect the boomers would be on your side. They can buy whatever they want. Crush us with their wallet.
 

dalmatiangirl61

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you guys sound like skin flint boomers that complain kids don't want to work because you only offer a cup of rice as payment.
Damn kids should be happy to get a bowl of rice, when we were that age a full days wage only got you half a bowl of rice:codger:. One of those kids walked off the job on me last week, and I was paying $20 per hour, he did not say a word, he just walked.
 

Garwood

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I see the term "Boomers" used more and more often as a pejorative. If boomers are guilty of anything, it's raising a generation of spoiled entitled brats. That's my take on it from the view point of a boomer :-).

They kind of did in a way. My parents are boomers. They had things to deal with like Vietnam, civil rights and easy access to all kinds of drugs and heavy alcohol use as the norm. Cigarettes weren't a bad thing until they were middle aged. So I can't say they all had it easy.

However, when boomers came of age and started buying houses and property and going into business and politics they shaped a majority of laws and regulations to favor them. Their numbers made for a massive majority. They absorbed massive assets. They have previously unheard of wealth and power for their generation.

Something I find comical about boomers is it seems as though most of the really successful ones I have met and know today, including some of my good friends, is how they came into success and power largely by just not making terrible choices- They bought real estate when prices were low and their wages were high. All they had to do to make it in business was pay for a spot in the yellow pages and do the work OK. Innovation and technological obsolescence happened over decades, not overnight. Boomers weren't under video surveillance 24/7 for the first half of their lives atleast.

So I don't think boomers should stop giving younger generations shit for being lazy, but I do think they should stop and think how they played a part in creating the problem.
 

jbacc

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They kind of did in a way. My parents are boomers. They had things to deal with like Vietnam, civil rights and easy access to all kinds of drugs and heavy alcohol use as the norm. Cigarettes weren't a bad thing until they were middle aged. So I can't say they all had it easy.

However, when boomers came of age and started buying houses and property and going into business and politics they shaped a majority of laws and regulations to favor them. Their numbers made for a massive majority. They absorbed massive assets. They have previously unheard of wealth and power for their generation.

Something I find comical about boomers is it seems as though most of the really successful ones I have met and know today, including some of my good friends, is how they came into success and power largely by just not making terrible choices- They bought real estate when prices were low and their wages were high. All they had to do to make it in business was pay for a spot in the yellow pages and do the work OK. Innovation and technological obsolescence happened over decades, not overnight. Boomers weren't under video surveillance 24/7 for the first half of their lives atleast.

So I don't think boomers should stop giving younger generations shit for being lazy, but I do think they should stop and think how they played a part in creating the problem.
Touche’
 








 
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