Monarch 10ee from CU Boulder for auction on gov deals

[johfoster]

As the only person in this "for sale" thread that actually seems to have anything to do with the buying/selling of this lathe afaik, I will again reiterate that I doubt you would shout it from the rooftops if you yourself were trying to buy it, and if you did you would likely get people on here telling you it was foolish to do so. That's all I am saying, and I feel like I was reasonably well thought out / mostly polite about saying it. (I suppose the first thing I said was too antagonistic in hindsight)

Also...while I am admittedly a very grumpy old man at my 33yrs of age, I have no idea what counts as a "skin flint boomer", nor do I care to go down that road of useless insults.

I just want to buy this 10ee to replace the one I already own that needs more love, and would rather not have to bid against everyone out there who could possibly be interested. Like someone else said, it is already hard enough as it is. Don't we all hope to catch a break now and again?

 

[Maxim]

PMers have been posting auction/cl links here for as long as I can remember (especially for things of interest like 10EE or Deckels). Would I have posted it if I was buying it, maybe maybe not. But I thought that someone here might be interested. Especially given how on the front range there is a lack of machine tools (and pretty much any industry not centered around growing plants indoors). Is it meant to take food out of your mouth? No and I hope you get a good deal on it.

To get my 10EE was a 3 day drive for a machine sight unseen, this one is basically in my backyard which is a rare sight. I look at the cu-boulder listings pretty regularly since I'm nearby. To find something good on gov deals you have to sort through a lot of junk. They have an open auction on nov 5th too if you're interested.

Is it hard out there? Well I've been watching society be torn to shreds for the last decade or so, so yea its not that great. A huge part of it is because no one wants to invest in the future. And thats not just industrial policy its being positive and nice to people and helping each other out, not screaming F-you I got mine, something I've seen to much of, and to be brutally honest, especially from the older generations.

 

[standardparts]

As the only person in this "for sale" thread that actually seems to have anything to do with the buying/selling of this lathe afaik, I will again reiterate that I doubt you would shout it from the rooftops if you yourself were trying to buy it, and if you did you would likely get people on here telling you it was foolish to do so. That's all I am saying, and I feel like I was reasonably well thought out / mostly polite about saying it. (I suppose the first thing I said was too antagonistic in hindsight)

Also...while I am admittedly a very grumpy old man at my 33yrs of age, I have no idea what counts as a "skin flint boomer", nor do I care to go down that road of useless insults.

I just want to buy this 10ee to replace the one I already own that needs more love, and would rather not have to bid against everyone out there who could possibly be interested. Like someone else said, it is already hard enough as it is. Don't we all hope to catch a break now and again?

You can hope to catch a break but it's likely more than one person has already figured what they are willing to pay. PM members have elevated 10EEs to mythic proportions and the one in that auction looks pretty nice. To someone who wants a nice 10EE with accessories will likely figure it's a rare opportunity to get a nice machine.
No one on PM is preventing you from winning the auction...the machine can be yours for the highest bid.
BTW...You were the 3rd post...should have messaged the person who linked the auction, explain your situation, and request that the auction link be deleted.

 

[johfoster]

PMers have been posting auction/cl links here for as long as I can remember (especially for things of interest like 10EE or Deckels). Would I have posted it if I was buying it, maybe maybe not. But I thought that someone here might be interested. Especially given how on the front range there is a lack of machine tools (and pretty much any industry not centered around growing plants indoors). Is it meant to take food out of your mouth? No and I hope you get a good deal on it.

To get my 10EE was a 3 day drive for a machine sight unseen, this one is basically in my backyard which is a rare sight. I look at the cu-boulder listings pretty regularly since I'm nearby. To find something good on gov deals you have to sort through a lot of junk. They have an open auction on nov 5th too if you're interested.

Is it hard out there? Well I've been watching society be torn to shreds for the last decade or so, so yea its not that great. A huge part of it is because no one wants to invest in the future. And thats not just industrial policy its being positive and nice to people and helping each other out, not screaming F-you I got mine, something I've seen to much of, and to be brutally honest, especially from the older generations.

I wouldn't ever take issue with a CL ad being shared in the same way, because that is an item at a fixed price that whoever is first to it can buy.

An auctions final price is in direct corelation to how many people see it, the more people who see an auction-the more people will bid-the higher the prices will be.
(Anyone here who has an argument otherwise can please let all the auction houses know to stop spamming constantly about upcoming auctions, since you are saying the items are going to sell for what they sell for as long as some people have seen it)

I certainly don't feel anyone has ill intent, but still think it is the wrong thing to do given the circumstances. I think maybe to those of us who have lived on or done lots of auction buying over the years it just feels like poor etiquette to do, and people who haven't just don't see it that way. ?

It is what it is. No hard feelings either way from me.

 

[sandiapaul]

Half a bowl of rice! You don't know how lucky you were! In my day I was happy to be paid the water used to boil half a cup of rice!

 

[bob]

The idea that talking about auctions on this site would generate huge numbers of bidders that would not otherwise participate was started years ago by Milicron but I have never seen a case of this actually happening. If you have been outbid by someone who saw the auction here please post your experience.
Bob

 

[kenton]

I see the term "Boomers" used more and more often as a pejorative. If boomers are guilty of anything, it's raising a generation of spoiled entitled brats. That's my take on it from the view point of a boomer :-).

Kind of like how millennial is used?

 

[standardparts]

Kind of like how millennial is used?

'millennial'...'boomer'...Gen this-Gen that....I guess now-a-days it's all about age and wealth bias.

Whatever happened to descriptions "like lazy dumb ass", "back stabbing bastard", or "stupid son-of-o-bitch" which seemed to span all ages, race, gender, and creeds. creeds.

Too many people using someone's age or success to make excuses for their own shortcomings.

But back to that 10EE....sure looks nice in the pics. What 'ya think..gotta be worth $10-$12K. Heck it even runs!

 

[Maxim]

But back to that 10EE....sure looks nice in the pics. What 'ya think..gotta be worth $10-$12K. Heck it even runs!

I'm guessing at least $5k reserve, maybe $8k. and no extra fees either and they have people to load it for you and you have a few days to come check it out.

The idea that talking about auctions on this site would generate huge numbers of bidders that would not otherwise participate was started years ago by Milicron but I have never seen a case of this actually happening. If you have been outbid by someone who saw the auction here please post your experience.
Bob

Interesting. This might have been true when PM started but I don't think that can be the case today with everything online.

 

[johfoster]

I'm guessing at least $5k reserve, maybe $8k. and no extra fees either and they have people to load it for you and you have a few days to come check it out.

There is a buyers premium as well as sales taxes that add up to about 20% added on top of the bid price. So not sure what you mean no extra fees? Add $1k to every $5k of bid.

 

[TheOldCar]

FWIW, the I/M one at U of U recently sold for around $5,000 but did have (I think) some sort of cobbled drive.

I remember the $200 price written on the back of the lathe in one of the pics.

https://www.govdeals.com/index.cfm?fa=Main.Item&itemid=2369&acctid=7735



——Unless it’s a PM, I only share these after they close—

 

[johfoster]

I remember the $200 price written on the back of the lathe in one of the pics.

I would feel inclined to preserve the $200 price written on the back of it while cleaning it up. I wonder when that was, or possibly just an internal accounting detail for UofU.

 

[TheOldCar]

I would feel inclined to preserve the $200 price written on the back of it while cleaning it up. I wonder when that was, or possibly just an internal accounting detail for UofU.

I agree. I keep thinking it may have been a price from some surplus sale prior to the U getting it, or a surplus sale they themselves tried before?
I only think this because my DoAll 36” saw that I bought from a private seller in Ogden has the same sort of grease pencil writing, with a code number and then a price. Cheap price.

 

[rawen2]

Anyone know how much the lathe sold for?

 

[johfoster]

The reserve was not met, at a bid of $5850. (afaik) (if the reserve is not met the auction disappears from govdeals apparently with no record left) They will decide to sell it at that price, or re-run it on govdeals.