Djstorm100
Cast Iron
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Only if you can throw a stone 700 miles lol
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More new Haas issues.....
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prime_mover
Aluminum
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I'll take you up on that bet, and bet they built it so that it self destructs.
He said (clearly) he lost 1/2" of Y travel from the spec travel of the machine.
That's not how I read his reply but I see now he answers a question that said How much did you loose from spec with 1/2" . I would be interested to see the travel on the DRO now showing that and if so I would certainly be having a chat with HAAS
Maybe you missed it. In post #19 the op clearly states he lost 1/2" of Y travel from the machine specs.
Didnt't miss it it just read more like they had limited it from what it was travelling which if it was hitting the way covers I expect it was over traveling. My VF4 and VF2 has space between Ways and table and get full spec and I doubt this machine was built on different castings so it made more sense it was an adjustment issue and was now limited from what it was.
As I said it would just be interesting to see the DRO to show actual movement the machine now has as if HAAS made it 1/2" under actual sold spec then I would be pissed
smallshopwrench
Plastic
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How about this, two brand new 2022 machines both got a " patch" from Haas, one machine got a new bellows cover on warranty. The "patch" took the geniuses 3 days to complete, tell me sir if it was simply over traveling 1- how did it pass final inspection and 2- why wasn't it an instant fix of just setting parameters back to same numerical values as every other VF4 instead of a special access code and a thumb drive overnighted from California ? To make a long story short, we now have 19.500" of travel in Y axis.Whatever the deal between ownership and Haas was I'm not privy to but I do believe we did get some sort of compensation.
smallshopwrench
Plastic
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Weirdly, on the two identical VF4's the same 4th Axis we bought with the machines will run programs all day everyday on one mill but when moved alarms out on the other mill with same program . A tech is working on that too- under warranty.
My 2019 VF4 haas this problem as well. they know and dont care.
Our ST15 kept dropping the activation codes when powered off, WIth the new update about half of our programs need to be altered or completely re programed for them to work.
I would be very hesitant on buying another one from what i have been seeing.
I have a older VF3
The rest of these were all bought new in the last 9 years.
2017 VF2 No complaints
2020 VF2 Way cover issues as mentioned above
2019 VF4 Way cover issues as mentioned above
2019 VF9 only complaint, Paid for Spindle air blast. It has never worked.
2014 ST10 No complaints.
2020 ST15Y dual spindle, B axis ball screw replaced, Bad again. Grease issue from factory that is still not fixed. Turned out the machine was a trial machine for haas, sold as new. Had hundreds of hours on it and Over 2K tool changes.
It seems every year they cut another corner to reduce quality in exchange for no price change. Haas was always my go to machine, I didn't even entertain another brand when I was getting started. Its looking like our next mill will be a DNS
We did buy a doosan lynx 2600SY a year ago. We have been really happy with that machine.
I have a older VF3
The rest of these were all bought new in the last 9 years.
2017 VF2 No complaints
2020 VF2 Way cover issues as mentioned above
2019 VF4 Way cover issues as mentioned above
2019 VF9 only complaint, Paid for Spindle air blast. It has never worked.
2014 ST10 No complaints.
2020 ST15Y dual spindle, B axis ball screw replaced, Bad again. Grease issue from factory that is still not fixed. Turned out the machine was a trial machine for haas, sold as new. Had hundreds of hours on it and Over 2K tool changes.
It seems every year they cut another corner to reduce quality in exchange for no price change. Haas was always my go to machine, I didn't even entertain another brand when I was getting started. Its looking like our next mill will be a DNS
We did buy a doosan lynx 2600SY a year ago. We have been really happy with that machine.
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Djstorm100
Cast Iron
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Milland
Diamond
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No shit. I hope they get hammered if they've been helping Russia. And this after they dumped Mazepin from the F1 team!
Bastards...
Bastards...
smallshopwrench
Plastic
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Please save the political opinions and other emotional responses for the proper thread or CNN websites.
Speedie
Stainless
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You know machine are just dumb mechanical beasts. Take your bra off, remove the way covers, move the home switch a 1/2 inch, check for collisions and put your travel back in your control. They all have the same ballscrews...unless they mis machined the table you got options.
Did you miss the part where it's crunching way covers at the nameplate travel?
I've squeaked extra travel out of a few of my Jap machines. My Puma lathe I got 2 extra inches in Z. They even put the extra holes in the casting for the switch dogs. That extra travel puts the way covers "right there" though. No room for chips packing up inside the stops or anything.
smallshopwrench
Plastic
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Take apart a Haas still under warranty and fiddle with locations and switches, why would such a robust mechanically impeccable machine need a warranty anyway lol ? One of the 2 twins just lost Z servo and/or amp last week but I'm sure Gene would say it's ok if they moved around ball screws and switches , warrant it all . By the way, they tried relocation idea already like the first trip in and no dice sadly . I get why folks think its that easy (as it should be honestly) but never underestimate Haas's ability to F things up.
Speedie
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It is obviously either
A. Homing that axis in the wrong location
B. Machined over 1/2" off
I would start by looking at the extents of the travel and remedying the situation myself because clearly you are getting nowhere with your factory outlet. I mean...you havent even looked but you want to spend energy admitting total defeat. Fuck that I would have that bastard torn down before admitting defeat.
A. Homing that axis in the wrong location
B. Machined over 1/2" off
I would start by looking at the extents of the travel and remedying the situation myself because clearly you are getting nowhere with your factory outlet. I mean...you havent even looked but you want to spend energy admitting total defeat. Fuck that I would have that bastard torn down before admitting defeat.
