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jefFP2ANC

Plastic
Joined
Jan 26, 2022
Hello everyone,
two months ago i came across a Deckel Fp2A Contour 3 Dialog 4 (Grundig).
I've been dreaming of a CNC machine for hobby use for a few years and took my chances with this one.
Knowing very little about the subject of CNC it has been a nice learning experience.
All the books including technical schematics came with the machine.(in German)
I'm belgian (flemish), and luckily with a bit of creative reading , the german language is understandable.

After reading some topics on this beautiful forum, it is time to make a first post.

About the machine:
it was originally bought by the belgian defence forces, was sold off at auction and was again auctioned off. The guy i bought it from is a engineer who rebuilds milling machines.
He gave this one a good cleaning and maintenance and used it barely for two years at his home shop.
It has 512 !! spindle hours.
I got a feeling i'm extremely lucky since it has the 2212-900 dividing head on it.


There is however no regular table, nor do i have the counter support beam or counter center holder for the dividing head.(looking for these)

Anyway, i'm now looking to connect the machine to a pc, since i have solidworks.
When searching the forum i found numerous helpful topics about this subject,
so i will now attempt this, and will post any questions here.
Best regards from belgium, jef

edit, the machine is not mounted to the ceiling
 

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jefFP2ANC

Plastic
Joined
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I will surely post some videos, i will find a way to make them smaller..
first small batch is in bronze, for making kindling with the cordless drill (t was Christmas time and made these to hand out)
 

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DeadMahoDude

Aluminum
Joined
Oct 30, 2016
Those splitting screws seem like the perfect task for that NC dividing head.
Likely one line of G-code
After you collect a couple of NC deckels, this would be the perfect backup machine for such tasks...
 

jefFP2ANC

Plastic
Joined
Jan 26, 2022
Yes, i'm just beginning to learn G code, and was pleasantly surprised.
I hope i can make room for some more Deckels, but for now i've got my hands full.

If anyone has any documentation, or a picture of the hydraulic drawbar of the dividing head?
The hydraulic connection is there on the bottom of the dividing head, but the drawbar is missing.
I would love to make it so i can put the 3 jaw etc on there (on the short cone)with the drawbar instead of bolting (now there is a flange inbetween).
best regards jef
 

Martin P

Stainless
Joined
Aug 12, 2004
Location
Germany in the middle towards the left
Hi,
I have never seen a Dialog control machine with an hour counter. Probably installed by the customer.
Your SW level is very very old, like the very first one. Normally they were updated several times, but being a government machine that did not happen.
Did they at least activate the graphics?
The NC indexer with hydraulics is very rare. I'd appreciate a picture of the drawbar.
The indexer could be purchased without overarm. Does it have the locator pins?
Overarms and tailstocks are rarer than the indexer itself.
Also, what chuck is on the indexer. It seems to need a very unusual chuck with front mounting bolts, which I could never find (used).

Nice score, keep it forever.
 

jefFP2ANC

Plastic
Joined
Jan 26, 2022
Hello Martin,
For clarity the hour counter is on the side of the electrical cabinet, not on the Dialog control (console).
I can get simple graphics, very similar to the ones on the flip booklet on the console.
Have you any idea if that would make things impossible to hook it up to a computer for uploading programs? (i'm looking into this, but am also al little hesitant since i dont want to mess things up. i'm new to this and very happy the machine works as is.)

Well i have no drawbar now, so i cannot give you a picture for now. But i am keeping my eyes open and looking for one.

The indexer has locator pins indeed. I dont have a need for the overarm and tailstock yet, but i can see it happening on some rainy sunday morning.

For now there is a modified (drilled through front to back) röhm 250mm chuck on there, but it is not mounted directly on the indexer. there is a face plate inbetween (universal mounting plate...).

This is a dream come true, so i will indeed keep it forever and pass it on.
 

Martin P

Stainless
Joined
Aug 12, 2004
Location
Germany in the middle towards the left
Of course you can connect to a computer, that has nothing to do with graphics.

The connection is under the console.
There are lots of threads here on how to do that.
When the machine has sat for so long, make sure all the oil fittings let oil through. I have a machine here right now that sat for 7 years and the central lubrication valves were all stuck not letting any oil pass.
 








 
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