Yeah, I've no idea what millenial idiot thought that to be an idea, let alone one that isn't just implented, but made to be the default even.I can tell you for sure, if I can't conveniently see which threads in each topic have new posts, and then jump to the first new post, I'll be doing a lot less reading and only stop in when I have a question to ask.
99.9% of my time here is through a mobile device. This new format will be way better, once I find everything and adapt to it.I'm not surprised by the general amount of grumbling on this forum about the recent changes, seems to fit in with the general vibe here lol.
Some other forums I'm on have been migrating away from Vbulletin to Xenforo, and from what I understand it is primarily a back end thing. I guess Vbulletin is a much larger pain in the ass than Xenforo, and the amount of extra work it takes to keep spammers and whatnot at bay is much harder on Vbulletin.
I frankly hated the old Vbulletin layout. It was never as well laid out as I would have liked, and it was in NO way mobile friendly for photos or stuff like that. I think this is a positive move, and with some general tweaks and cosmetic massaging y'all will be back to complaining about the usual stuff in no time. It'll take some getting used to, but hopefully this helps attract and retain some more members as forums generally aren't the thriving medium they were 10 or 15 years ago.
99.9% of my time here is through a mobile device. This new format will be way better,
Pretty early for me to say either way. I agree there is a lot of whitespace, maybe too much.
I do like the new page number deal. The old was too dark and hard to read.
^^^^This^^^^Agree on both counts, although going to the "Default" setting from Novus reduced the whitespace for me and seemed to restore the previous font.
I have a computer monitor in portrait mode and the whitespace on the sides makes the new layout miserable. I just don't understand why people seem to like so much whitespace everywhere these days.I don't really know what you mean by " tracking of this font ", but the field of view is definitely narrow.
Sure looks like it is catering to the millenial morons holding their portables in "portrait" mode!
Because it's 2022 and we all have computers in our pockets? Which also happen to have cameras? Makes it SO much easier to snap a pic at the machine of the screen or the part or whatever and upload it. It's a giant pain in the ass to send pics to yourself, download them to the pc just to re-upload to a forum.Aaaannnnddd... in the meantime....
those of us who actually contribute to the machining related topics here as well, do it on our primary device, which happens to be a fucking COMPUTER, let that be a PC or MAC !!!
You know, the magic box you can use to draw a part, design a part, program a part, document a process, invoice the final product...
Come on Man! You know. You know what I mean. You know the thing, the thing ....
But please, do tell us why we should give a FF about you having a better experience on a mobile device?
In the 80's we had pagers that were small and clipped onto your belt, then cell phones came out, you needed a backpack to lug one, so it stayed in the car most of the time. As cell phones progressed they got smaller until I could carry one in a shirt pocket, I miss my Blackberry. Then they decided phones needed to be bigger so you could have bigger screens, the problem is it does not fit in my pocket anymore, and instead of people sending a short message, they want to send 12 page dissertations, I'm not reading that sh*t on a miniature screen. The only clothing I see that has pockets big enough for modern cell phones is overalls, and I'm not dressing like farmer John, so the cell phone can sit next to the computer, and I don't have to play Pavlov's dog.Because it's 2022 and we all have computers in our pockets? Which also happen to have cameras? Makes it SO much easier to snap a pic at the machine of the screen or the part or whatever and upload it. It's a giant pain in the ass to send pics to yourself, download them to the pc just to re-upload to a forum.
I also read PM while on the couch, waiting in lines, on public transport, as a passenger in cars, the list goes on. I don't carry my laptop with me everywhere, but I do my phone.
Yes, I write on my computer at my desk, as I'm doing now. But I would argue the vast bulk of social media and causal computing is done on a phone or a tablet now. Forums are a form of social media.
If PM doesn't keep up with the world, it will get left behind. Plain and simple. The Instagram machining community is easily as knowledgeable and helpful as PM, and the ENTIRE thing is done on mobile. If PM wants to stay relevant, it needs to be useable and accessible to people younger than the age of 40.
Forums rely on traffic. If you don't get traffic, you don't get ad money, and the forum closes. If I owned PM I would do everything in my power to make my site as appealing to as many people as possible. Mobile computing is here to stay, so it makes ZERO sense to not consider it when doing forum upgrades.