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ngadhiya

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Hello all,
finally I am starting up a new machine shop. Buying haas vmc with 4 axis rotary table. What I will be doing? as of now whatever work I get.
Any recommendations/suggestions on successfully running it? Any extra things I should know?
I have not yet purchased any CMM's.

I will need some work as well. Any suggestions as to where I could find some good work? I am making connections but if i am missing anything.
 
Best to sell everything you own, get divorced, say goodbye to your children and grandchildren (past present and future ) and move into your Mom's moldy basement.
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That way you can afford to rent professional facilities and finance real machines (for a while) until Jamie Dimon gets bored of all these Americans attempting to build equity in what was once their lives.
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You can have a successful (all financial weather) machine shop OR have friends and family - but you can't do both.
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Pick one.
 
You are about to walk off a financial cliff, unless there is a lot more than you've posted on this forum. Are you personally a machinist? You previously mentioned your friend but, what about you? Is he a really good machinist? There are talented guys on here, struggling to pull in $80-100 / hour shop rate. Your pay and his pay will come out of that, after all the bills are paid.

I saw your question about gear making. If you were thinking of high-speed, constant-use gears like in power transmission, I would not even try. Are you subscribed to Gear Solutions Magazine? If not, you need to be. Even if you're not in gear manufacturing, they do a lot of very good articles on materials, inspection, heat treatments, coatings, etc. Gear making is to general machining like brain surgery is to general practice. One or two back issues of that magazine should cure you of wanting to take that on.
 
One or two back issues of that magazine should cure you of wanting to take that on.
Ah, cmon! A little hubris and ignorance will get us some laughs.

Seriously though, I dabble in some low tolerance gearing and hope he gets some outside experience/knowledge before committing to any large orders.

Ed.
 
Did you give up on cutting gears already?
No I have not. Gears cutting is darn expensive. What I am thinking is I will start with automotive parts that could be done on 4th axis. go from there build some connections, I dont know how but eventually gather till I can buy a good multi axis solution like integrex or something.
 
You are about to walk off a financial cliff, unless there is a lot more than you've posted on this forum. Are you personally a machinist? You previously mentioned your friend but, what about you? Is he a really good machinist? There are talented guys on here, struggling to pull in $80-100 / hour shop rate. Your pay and his pay will come out of that, after all the bills are paid.

I saw your question about gear making. If you were thinking of high-speed, constant-use gears like in power transmission, I would not even try. Are you subscribed to Gear Solutions Magazine? If not, you need to be. Even if you're not in gear manufacturing, they do a lot of very good articles on materials, inspection, heat treatments, coatings, etc. Gear making is to general machining like brain surgery is to general practice. One or two back issues of that magazine should cure you of wanting to take that on.

I absolutely do not want to stuck in doing custom low volume high mix jobs. I will start from there but eventually, gear production house. Yes, I am following gear solutions magazine. I think with this 4th axis, so far I have figurred out I can do somesimple gears like spur gears or straight spine gears.

I am machinist as well. currently working as a cutting tool specialist/applications engineer. and i was a cnc mastercam programmer before.
 
I encourage you to push on but always look at any market and design several parts in several markets. Consider recreations, hobbies, UTV/ATV and also some markets that are necessary for people to do their day to day like automotive. Also, get on a government website like SAMS so you can get approved for contract work. Luckily my parts and customer base are growing, but I have several parts and designs on the side waiting to be made so I am not pigeonholed into one small spot of this industry and unable to move when time demands it.
 
New shop, who dis?

I would avoid automotive like the plague. It's a cut-throat, low margin field, where seconds and pennies and who you know make all the difference. One minor mistake and you're in the hole.

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Unless you mean "custom billet" stuff for rich people to bolt onto their hotrods and Harleys. AIUI there's some money to be made there. But I also know people running lights-out 24/7/365 automation for that, so you've gotta find a niche they aren't filling.
 
this is new direction I like it. I can reach out to them regarding what I can manufacture or prototype.

any license or certifications needed for that? or just EIN number is enough?

EIN is all you need but you can upload certifications when/if you get some.
 








 
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